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So I wake up this AM and first thing I see all over the place is how Cam Newton acted a turd in the post game press conference. Grow up, kid.
He is only 26. However, Mike and Mike crack me up.
Be consistent guys – one of life’s truism is that adversity reveals character…and what we saw yesterday was a big reason why some have doubted Cam… And I say this as a cam Newton fan. From the fumble that he didn’t dive for to the post game comments.
Hopefully, he will step back and grow from this.
OTOH – it was good to see Norman congratulating Peyton.
I’m a life long Panther’s fan. I’ve got on VHS their very first game they played against the Jaguars in the HOF preseason game they played back in 95.
That said, it’s abundantly clear that Cam Newton is an a$zhole. How many other 20 something year old “kids” have lost a Superbowl and not acted like a 5 year old?
He talks like a big fella and goes out there hot dogging when he’s winning, then telling his critics if they want him to stop “having so much fun” then the other team needs to stop him. Well he was stopped last night and then showed his true classlessness.
As a fan he’s not the person I’d prefer to be the face of the franchise right now. If he grows the hell up and can exude an ounce of modesty after a tail whipping then perhaps I’d be willing to change my tune as well.
^Amen Troll !!
Some here compared Rogers and Brady to Cam with their “hot dogging”. Theres a difference in celebrating a big play and celebrating one-self. If you gonna talk the talk you better not walk the walk away when ask post game questions. Which by the way were not HARD questions.
3 totally different types of celebrations – IMHO’s Brady’s celebration is a quick, demonstrative “Yeeaaa!”, Rogers is somewhat self-oriented but still quick, Cam’s celebration goes on for much longer.
It has always been an intellectually dishonest argument to say ” well, Brady celebrates too and no one gets mad at them.”
It either demonstrates ignorance or something much more duplicitous.
Agree with Troll also. Cam’s sullen and petulant attitude after the game, coupled with what appeared to be a total lack of desire to recover his own critical fumble with the game on the line will only serve as more ammo for his detractors. Such a shame that his maturity has not progressed equally with his skills.
Cowboy’s fan here, who always pulled for Panthers secondly, but clearly have difficulty with that anymore, since Cam became the team leader, and QB. His behavior and attitude are an embarrassment to the game, and the team. He certainly needs to grow up. I pulled for the Broncos, and hoping Peyton would retire a winner, and that is one who knows what having class is. Maybe Newton will learn one day.
Wolfanatic -he is definitely more mature than he was when he arrived in Charlotte. But this was a setback in his development. Still, his upside is absolutely worthy of continuing to support him.
I said it at the time and after having rewatched replays I still say it…it is very disingenuous to try to make a judgement of whether Cam should have dived for the fumble in question. Even from my TV perspective in real time I thought it would be better to wait and see how the bounce went next given the location/direction it was heading. And I sure didn’t see it from his perspective. But to then use it as an indication his heart might not have been in it? C’mon folks…you know better than that.
As far as the post-game, he could have handled it better. And he will in the future if he ever gets back there. But if I’m a Panthers fan I am damn happy he’s pissed off. He’ll use that feeling and be better next time because of it.
Ease up on the guy. Sheeesh.
Even from my TV perspective in real time I thought it would be better to wait and see how the bounce went next given the location/direction it was heading.
I’m guessing you’ve never participated in a fumble drill. As a player, and certainly not as a coach. 🙂
From my perspective, it was immediately clear what it was.
A ‘business decision’ made by the latter 2/3’rds of someone who sees himself “not only as a football player, but an entertainer and icon.”
And he knows it, even if no one else does.
I’m guessing you’ve never participated in a fumble drill. As a player, and certainly not as a coach.
From my perspective, it was immediately clear what it was.
A ‘business decision’ made by the latter 2/3’rds of someone who sees himself “not only as a football player, but an entertainer and icon.”
And he knows it, even if no one else does.
I have, but admittedly it’s been a long while, LOL.
My take was that the ball kicked and caused him to second guess any decision one way or another. I thought it was a mistake of sorts, and one I understand even….just not of the nature most folks are attributing it to.
Interesting to hear your perspective. I’ll have to go back and look again.
Admittedly, my judgment is influenced by his past actions. I think it was a reflexive “me first” reaction.
He started to go for the ball, then realized “oh, ***, that’s a mass of bodies going for that thing, I ain’t diving in that mess. Forget that s***, I’m the QB, I’m Cam Newton.”
Just one man’s take, but body language speaks volumes, and Cam has never been mute when it comes to body language.
body language speaks volumes, and Cam has never been mute when it comes to body language.
So true. FWIW, in the comments section for this story on ESPN, someone replied “Russell Wilson would have dove onto the ball.” and it got tons of up votes. 🙂
Admittedly, my judgment is influenced by his past actions. I think it was a reflexive “me first” reaction.
He started to go for the ball, then realized “oh, ***, that’s a mass of bodies going for that thing, I ain’t diving in that mess. Forget that s***, I’m the QB, I’m Cam Newton.”
Just one man’s take, but body language speaks volumes, and Cam has never been mute when it comes to body language.
After re-watching, with your perspective in mind, I admit I’m no longer certain. But also not ready to condemn it as such.
Dammit…now I be so confusled.
Cam!!!! You divisive man-child!!!!!FWIW, the slo mo frame by frame does make it look more like a conscious “No effing way” decision. At least initially. He did take a knee and make a (sorta) effort after that. But regardless of what his true motivations, or lack thereof perhaps, might have been….I get the opinion.
http://abc11.com/sports/cam-newton-defends-walking-out-of-news-conference/1193482/
Nothing to debate any more regarding whether or not Cam was protecting his own interests on that fumble play. He came right out today and apologetically admitted to it:
Newton also defended himself for not diving to try to recover his fumble in the fourth quarter that eventually was recovered by the Broncos. Denver went on to score a touchdown to put the game out of reach.
He said that he would have risked injury by diving as it would have meant he would have had to twist his leg in an awkward direction.
Newton said that if he had thrown an interception and not tried to make the tackle to avoid an injury he likely would have not heard any complaints.
In the MF’ing Superbowl no doubt. I remember a couple of years ago in the pre-season when Phil Rivers tossed an INT and went into full on linebacker mode, squared up, and saved a TD. In the damn PRE-SEASON, folks!!!
Sure they’re both fiery QBs, but the difference is that one plays for the team and one plays for himself. Not debatable any longer.
Wow, thanks for posting that, Troll. I had not seen that. I feel somewhat vindicated in questioning his desire to recover his fumble.
Wufpacker, that is the best replay of that play that I have seen. I think that if you compare Cam’s attempt, hustle and desire to get the ball, compared to that of Demarcus Ware, Ryan Kalil or Malik Jackson, well, there simply is no comparison or question as to who was willing to give his best effort.
And Troll, your statement: “Sure they’re both fiery QBs, but the difference is that one plays for the team and one plays for himself. Not debatable any longer.” pretty much sums up my feelings about Cam. It seems that it is Cam first, team second in his mind. That’s just my opinion, and I am no Cam-hater. Truth be told, had they been playing the Pats, I would have preferred to see the Panthers win.
I have no vested interest in The Panthers, and therefore none in Newton.
However, if the boy wants the lifetime glow of being a pro, he might wanna consider shutting the trap for awhile.
Beyond his apologists, everything he said today, spoke more than what he didn’t say on Sunday.
^ Agreed, and not even talking about fans/writers.
Teammates might be professing love now, but at some point that might blow back.Wow.
I honestly thought that was a joke when I first read it.
I guess that ends all debate on Cam’s “me first” attitude.
In the 4th quarter, down by a single score, deep in your own territory, in the freakin’ SUPER BOWL!?…
Wtf?… I guess I was even more right than I thought.
You guys have forgotten Andy Dalton. Broken thumb and out for the season after trying to tackle a Steeler player who had just picked off the pass. Cam runs a lot and takes some serious hits because of that. Flips into the end zone. I think he has earned the benefit of doubt from me.
Go wolves – he admits he didn’t try to get the fumble on a play that was the difference between his team having a chance to win the super bowl and the game being pretty much over. Probably a very good thing Steve smith isn’t on the team any more.
I think he has earned the benefit of doubt from me.
I don’t think he left anything to doubt. He stated he didn’t want to risk injury to himself to even try to recover a crucial fumble in the Super Bowl. I can’t figure how anyone that understands the concept of football as a team sport could reasonably give him a pass for that. Pre-season? Sure. Regular season? Maybe (but not from me). Playoffs? Hell to the NO! The friggin Superbowl? WTF is wrong with you?!!!
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