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  • #83650
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Too much time. Grant will hit the winner.

    #83651
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    Great game. Cats tough to beat.

    #83652
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    What ballsy defense. Great f-ing game.

    #83653
    Texpack
    Participant

    V would foul

    Just told the kid that

    #83654
    JeremyH
    Participant

    I thought Grant tried to do too much at the end there.

    #83655
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    Well-defended.

    Danggit.

    #83656
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    Could be headed for a Kentucky/Duke final.

    #83657
    NCSU88
    Participant

    Fudge

    #83658
    Texpack
    Participant

    Mugging ND while they were trying to inbound

    #83659
    MrPlywood
    Participant

    I would have called for the foul with 25 seconds left. Why let the clock run down? They make, you don’t have much time left. You foul, you have more control.

    #83660
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    It would have been 1-and-1 if not a shooting foul. Grab a non-Harrison.

    Give the KY defenders credit, they knew Grant would take a three AND that he wouldn’t pass it away. Smart defending.

    #83661
    JeremyH
    Participant

    Intentionally fouling there is pretty balsy, I only have seen one coach do that.

    #83662
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    Yea,UK was a tad smarter there at the end. Wiscy will certainly be no easy out as Kaminsky can more than hold his own in the post. But this UK team seems to get all the breaks when push comes to shove.

    #83663
    Whiteshoes67
    Participant

    I like kaminsky but that ky front court will eat his lunch

    #83664
    JeremyH
    Participant

    Luxury of having a 6-6 guard shooting overtop the d. Kaminsky might get pushed around in there.

    #83665
    MrPlywood
    Participant

    push comes to shove.

    Pun intended? 🙂

    #83666
    Wulfpack
    Participant

    Didnt eat his lunch last year and he can force them out. Tough guy to guard.

    #83668
    Whiteshoes67
    Participant

    Yeah, kaminsky will pull them out. Wisconsin will score. But ky will attack kaminsky on defense. I think blue rolls in that one by double digits

    #83669
    JeremyH
    Participant
    #83674
    Fastback68
    Participant

    After today’s games, watch or record CSPAN2 10pm. Book review – Cheated. TWX 220 channel ballpark.

    #83675
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Intentionally fouling there is pretty balsy, I only have seen one coach do that.

    Agreed, but even though it’s both rare and ballsy, it doesn’t make it any less right, especially when it’s a 1-and-1. In that particular set of circumstances (Auguste with 4, Grant dead on his feet), ND can’t play for OT. Even if KY pinky swears they will dribble out the clock…you have to foul and get the ball back.

    Maybe I will win back the favour of Jigsy and Va by saying its all about the maths, yo.

    Even assuming the Cats make 1 or 2 FTs, you figure you get a look with a 30-40%* chance to win. There’s NO WAY you have that good a chance to win in OT (with the factors I outlined), and that’s not factoring in the odds of stopping KY on defense, which are nowhere near 100%, even playing it straight-up.

    I don’t see where you lose that much by fouling on purpose (they ended up fouling anyway, due to KY’s huge speed/quickness advantage), whereas you gain BOTH time on the clock* and the 1-and-1 factor.

    * Those odds go WAY DOWN when you don’t have time to run a real play. Kudos to Calipari for drilling his kids to know that Grant would keep the ball AND go for a three at that point, knowing they couldn’t play for OT. Say what you will about the man, he coached his ass off those last two minutes of the game. And if you ever wanted proof of how much defense matters…

    #83676
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Another aspect where V was ahead of his time – mathematical intuition. Before advanced metrics, that’s essentially what V was calculating in his head, as a “hunch” of sorts. Poker players have been doing this for ages, whether they have worked out the exact calculations or not.

    There’s nothing I hate more than doing things by “the book” when logic and math don’t support it, because coaches know they won’t get criticized for playing it safe. Drives me f-ing nuts.

    /end rant

    #83680
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    Maybe all this last play stuff, foul no foul, stuff …comes down to this…

    How well the Coach trusts his players natural offensive or defensive instincts…
    versus…
    How well the Coach trusts his players to do exactly whatever impromptu craziness he comes up with during the timeout under the same amount of pressure as kids are feeling times ten.

    And then the Coach has to get this call right first…

    Coaches choke too… just ask Mike Brey…

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    #83683
    Wufpacker
    Participant

    What’s the ‘Ville/Sparty score?

    #83684
    BJD95
    Keymaster

    37-32, Yum!

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