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  • #123290

    Wulfpack
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    Atlantic Division
    (First-place votes in parenthesis)
    1. Florida State (121) – 1,108
    2. Clemson (37) – 1,007
    3. Louisville (9) – 843
    4. NC State – 658
    5. Wake Forest – 415
    6. Syracuse – 362
    7. Boston College – 283

    Coastal Division
    (First-place votes in parenthesis)
    1. Miami (103) – 1,065
    2. Virginia Tech (40) – 932
    3. Georgia Tech (9) – 708
    4. Pitt (7) – 673
    5. North Carolina (4) – 606
    6. Duke (4) -473
    7. Virginia -219

    http://www.theacc.com/news/florida-state-leads-acc-football-preseason-poll-07-17-2017

    #123291

    rthomas44
    Participant

    As useless as tits on a boar.

    #123292

    Pack1997
    Participant

    Its not useless…..they normally get last place right.

    #123317

    PackofMac
    Participant

    They’ve used the copy and paste method for the Atlantic Division for what, 8 or so years now?

    #123320

    GoldenChain
    Participant

    Well the one consistent thing in the post-Sheridan/post-V era, NCSU will underperform their pick.

    #123344

    VaWolf82
    Keymaster

    Retitled this thread to serve as a repository for articles of interest. Hold on….this is slow going as I hold my nose while posting three links from Dave Glenn:

    2 reason why NC State can expect big things from Airius Moore in 2017:
    https://accsports.com/acc-analytics/airius-moore-senior-leader-ncsu/

    Audio interview with Bradley Chubb
    https://accsports.com/acc-news/bradley-chubb-ncsu-de/

    Can Stephen Louis, Kelvin Harmon become the ACC’s best pair of wide receivers?
    https://accsports.com/acc-analytics/stephen-louis-harmon-ncsu-receivers/

    #123365

    Greywolf
    Participant
    #123378

    gso packbacker
    Participant

    Well the one consistent thing in the post-Sheridan/post-V era, NCSU will underperform their pick.

    I’d like to see the correlation of pick versus performance. Seems if most folks are optimistic, we under-perform. If most folks are generally pessimistic, we have a 50/50 shot at over-performing.

    I did look at this for basketball last season, and over the past 38 seasons, on average, we under-performed if picked 6th or better. 7th or worse, we tended to over-perform.

    Sendek: 10 seasons, 8 within +/- 2 places of preseason prediction
    Lowe: 5 Seasons, 1 were within +/- 2
    Gottfried: 6 Seasons, ZERO were within +/- 2.

    Yes, the league grew and changed, but I think that sums up Capt Wood Chopper versus the other two.

    #123379

    gso packbacker
    Participant

    Ok, so I had to go back and look at how football has done in comparison to their preseason predictions. I separated it into 2005-2015 (Divisions) and 1976-2004.

    Sadly, and not surprisingly, the pattern holds, although not as much upside as we’ve seen in basketball.

    Since division play began, we’ve under-performed if picked 3rd or better, BUT tended to perform as expected when picked 4 or lower.

    Let’s face it, to finish in 3rd place you really need 5 conference wins and that is something that we’ve only managed 4 times since Sheridan said adieu.

    #123396

    VaWolf82
    Keymaster

    you really need 5 conference wins and that is something that we’ve only managed 4 times since Sheridan said adieu.

    That’s as sad a commentary on Pack football as any I’ve ever read.

    #123400

    Wulfpack
    Participant

    Preseason Coaches Poll is out:

    3. FSU
    5. Clemson
    17. Louisville
    18. Miami
    22. VT

    https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/coaches-poll-top-25-alabama-is-preseason-no-1-ohio-state-over-florida-state/

    #123427

    VaWolf82
    Keymaster

    Stacked with experience and headlined by an NFL first-round prospect in Bradley Chubb, the Wolfpack’s front four could be the best symbol of the program’s steady maturation under fifth-year coach Dave Doeren. And so much of the defense’s success in 2017 will depend on how well that unit stuffs the run and hits quarterbacks in the backfield.

    http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/20269087/wolfpack-defensive-front-ready-leading-role-2017

    #123428

    Greywolf
    Participant

    Stacked with experience and headlined by an NFL first-round prospect in Bradley Chubb, the Wolfpack’s front four could be the best symbol of the program’s steady maturation under fifth-year coach Dave Doeren. And so much of the defense’s success in 2017 will depend on how well that unit stuffs the run and hits quarterbacks in the backfield.

    Bryant and Roseboro are set in the rotation and are referred to as “starters.” The emphasis is on finding 2 to 4 more for the rotation especially during the hot weather. A little help from the DBs in coverage will give the DL a little more time to pressure and as you say, hit the QB.

    Having the DL pretty well set is allowing them to work on ‘details’ as Coach Patrick puts it. Same hold true for the OL.

    #123432

    freshmanin83
    Participant

    CBS lists Wolfpack at 23 in its preseason ranking.

    https://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rankings/cbs

    #123435

    Greywolf
    Participant

    They’ve used the copy and paste method for the Atlantic Division for what, 8 or so years now?

    I thought that for the Coastal, too, until I saw where they had the sleeping giant — 5th place. Duke & the Holes both had 4 votes for 1st place.

    CBS lists Wolfpack at 23 in its preseason ranking.

    In those ranked 26 through 130 the reader could vote on whether we thought any team was ranked too high or too low. UMass, ranked last at 130, had 56% think they were ranked too high. You couldn’t give your opinion on the top 25 but if we could, I’m sure the Pack would get a lot of “too high” votes.

    All and all it’s a harmless diversion waiting for September 2nd — if you don’t let some A-hole try and shame you into not expressing your thoughts — even if they’re the SWAG method. 😉

    #123437

    Greywolf
    Participant

    I can’t locate a site for this but I have heard the Pack’s O-line is ranked in the top 30 by Athlon.

    I started watching Wolfpack football back when we played in the Southern Conference and football games were won mostly by the teams who dominated in the trenches. So now we are being ranked by many as being in the top 5 D-lines (vs. the run) and top 30 O-lines. Low and behold in the CBS poll we are rated 23rd.

    I know Pre-season rankings don’t mean anything. Neither does it mean anything that they don’t mean anything. (I put that in for Owen92.) lol

    IMO we are the team that nobody wants to play.

    #123442

    Greywolf
    Participant

    The Wolfpack flying under the radar:
    https://www.si.com/college-football…m&utm_medium=social&xid=socialflow_twitter_si

    #123443

    VaWolf82
    Keymaster

    I can’t locate a site for this but I have heard the Pack’s O-line is ranked in the top 30 by Athlon.

    #24 per:

    https://athlonsports.com/college-football/college-footballs-top-50-offensive-lines-2017

    Others of interest:
    #3 – Clemson
    #9 – ND
    #14 – Pitt
    #30 – FSU

    #123444

    VaWolf82
    Keymaster

    Defensive line rankings
    https://athlonsports.com/college-football/college-footballs-top-50-defensive-lines-2017

    Clemson, FSU, and NCSU all in Top10

    #123445

    Greywolf
    Participant

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    Defensive line rankings
    https://athlonsports.com/college-football/college-footballs-top-50-defensive-lines-2017

    Clemson, FSU, and NCSU all in Top10

    Thanks, VA. Well done. These don’t mean anything but are mote authentic than the prejudiced ideas of some of us optimists.

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