05/20/2014 at 3:19 PM #52263
As if you weren’t already excited enough about the Pack’s non-conference schedule, the season-opener vs. I-AA powerhouse first-year I-A Georgia Southe
[See the full post at: ACC Announces Early Season Game Times]05/20/2014 at 3:51 PM #52265
F-ing great, our August game will be during the hottest part of the day. Death by boredom, death by August sun, or watch from home…05/20/2014 at 4:07 PM #52266
If it wasn’t apparent before, it should be now.
The powers that be care NOTHING about the paying fans. From the god awful non conference schedule to the noon kickoffs in August.05/20/2014 at 5:13 PM #52267
I say take every NCSU official who agreed to yet another insane early-season noon kickoff and tie them to East Stadium seats at the 50 on August 30. Maybe after 4 hours of nonstop heat and generally Godawful football, they might realize why so many of us LTR fans are ready to bail.
For 19 seasons, I’ve bought LTR seats for football, and this will POSITIVELY be my last one. Schedules like this one, not to mention being cooked like I was at the Clemson, Akron and other notable early kickoffs in the past, have led me to believe that we fans don’t matter anymore. It’s hot enough on the West Side where I sit, and I cannot imagine enduring 4 hours on the East Side from noon forward.
Let alone watching ANY game shown on the ACC TV Network.05/20/2014 at 5:17 PM #52268
Last year’s La Tech game was miserably uncomfortable, and it wasn’t an overwhelmingly hot day for late summer standards. For us spoiled fans on the west side, we get baked as well in an August nooner. Generally, the only fun in the game is to watch the poor bastards on the east side and know they are not only watching mediocre football, but paying good money to watch it from hell. Sounds like a long half time in the making.05/20/2014 at 5:21 PM #52269
There should be some other solid semi-competitive games on the tube to keep you mildy entertained to whet your football appetite. Candidates could be Clemson/UGA, Bama/WVU, UCLA/UVA, and Cal/Northwstern. And in the evening there are a couple dandies (at least by Week 1 standards anyways) in Arkansas/Aubie, Wiscy (and much of it in the Bayeaux)/LSU and FSU/Okie State.
But for now we watch nothing for three months. Have a great off season, because it sure wasn’t a good season on the whole for Pack football, basketball and baseball this year. Here’s to success on all fronts in 2014-15.05/20/2014 at 5:34 PM #52270
The Pack better be ready to play. Georgia Southern is no joke…You can say what you want about them having just moved up to I-A but they know how to play on the road, i.e winning at the Swamp & at App State (Kidd Brewer is the most hostile stadium in NC) last year. This game will be interesting05/20/2014 at 9:19 PM #52280
I don’t want to hear anything from ESPN or the NCAA about how they care about fans. It is insane to have games between noon-330 in August/early September in the south.
You put players and fans at risk. Back before ac people could handle it…..not many folks are outside any more between 1230-400…for 3.5 hours.05/21/2014 at 11:35 AM #52295
choppack1: Respectfully, I don’t think sitting outside for four hours puts the fans at risk. Unpleasant experience? Sure. At risk? Only to purchasing future tickets.
I would admit that it could lead to heat exhaustion and dehydration for the players. Hydration will be an issue.
We’re going to take every “broadcasted” game we can get as a program. It’s better to be on the ACC network at 12:30 than to not have any coverage at 7 PM.
And nobody cares about the fans in the stands — not the NCAA, not the ACC and not the university. They care about eyes on the tube that generates way more revenue. Bowl games that are 20% filled has shown that.05/21/2014 at 3:00 PM #52305
Anyone who was in the East Stands for the Clemson game several seasons ago would take exception to a statement that they were “not at risk”. There were numerous EMS calls throughout this game, the most ever at C-F. And if it was that bad for the fans, imagine how bad it must have been for the players down on the field. I knew several people on the East side who had to leave at the half that day due to the oppressive early-afternoon heat.
What’s worse, the ACC Network, which is an iron-clad noon kickoff deal, will continue to demand more and more of these games. There are going to be more and more empty seats in stadiums around the ACC if the idiotic noon kickoffs continue during September. Since the cameras have to face east, these empty seats will become harder to hide in the coming years.
What the ACC should do is tell the ACC Network that they’ll have to start their September games later (4pm) or quit doing business with them. A 4pm game would easily be over by the 7pm “holy hour” if it wasn’t ridiculously dragged out the way the games are now.
As far as the ACC Network goes, I can’t imagine that being shown by this two-bit network does anything to enhance your program’s stature. With 3 ESPN tv networks plus multiple Fox sports stations simultaneously showing far better college games, there are simply too many other tv choices. NCSU-Ga. Southern? Outside of Raleigh and Statesboro, NOBODY will want to watch this one, especially State fans who have East Stadium seats.
One more thing about the 20%-capacity bowl games- they generate revenue because big corporations buy up most of this 20% capacity (all the good seats). Schools like NCSU can’t afford, for long, to continue scheduling noon kickoff games early on and expect to make a lot of money, especially with Sun Belt-level teams being the primary opponents.
It’s time for ACC ADs and officials to make up their minds as to who is more important to their football programs’ futures- their booster club members or the ACC TV Network. I don’t know where AD Yow stands on this, but she had better wake up before State starts losing more LTR subscribers than they gain. Right now, road games against decent opponents (Tennessee and LSU) would generate more revenue than home games against opponents like Old Dominion and Presbyterian.05/21/2014 at 4:35 PM #52307
They have no business complaining about fans not coming back to their seats in a timely fashion, after halftime I mean. We get scorcher noon games in early September, and the opponents are lackluster, as well. And it sounds like we may have scheduled the worst kind of “easy game” — one that can actually beat us.
I just paid off my LTRs, so I’m not anxious to stop buying tickets yet. But if this keeps up, I may just do that.05/22/2014 at 6:07 PM #52312
Game one! 12 noon in late Aug.???? What???? Okay, I won’t be there. Almost passed out at that Clemson game you all were referring to. This will be my LAST year to buy LTR tickets. The scheduliing is the reason, not the heat. I’m sick of paying out the nose to see these teams. We’ll lose the game against Ga. So. anyway. See you for the 1st confenence game of the season. I’m out!!!05/23/2014 at 6:06 PM #52323
There’s just so little surrounding our program lately to be excited about. We get a new coach every few years and C-F is expanded but we don’t have much to show for it. We rely on gimmicks.
This is why the little things like an exciting non-conference home game matter to us LTR folks. It’s at least something. Hell, we finally got a fun game in Atlanta and ESPN moved it to Friday night.
One of the main problems for those of us with LTRs and/or season tickets, is that if we don’t go — for whatever reason (for example, many NC folks head to the coast Labor Day weekend) — to a game — any game, really — there’s almost no secondary market for tickets. So we’re stuck with them.
And no matter how much we’ve given, if we’re not in our seat for every snap, we’re a bad fan.05/23/2014 at 7:27 PM #52326
I’m lucky to have gotten out before the secondary market collapsed. Trying to think how much one would have to pay me to sit there all game for Georgia Southern in August with noon kickoff.05/23/2014 at 11:04 PM #52329
What is an “exciting” game/schedule? We piss and moan about having to play home games against OOC teams other than top 25. Perhaps instead of Georgia Southern, Old Dominion, Presbyterian we would prefer to play Idaho, Bethune-Cookman, and Nevada – those 3 “exciting” OOC teams that Florida State beat by a combined score of 196 to 27. Those poor FSU fans got griping rights. WTF? 80 to 14, 64 to 7, 52 to 6? Not much excitement there. What we “fans” really expect and want is wins that vs. top 25 that are exciting and we want them now!
I realize after reading the comments above that no one is serious but is merely engaging in some spring time pissing and moaning but the fact is nobody who is anybody is “excited” about playing NC State away from home — if at all.
I get the complaints about the heat but complaining about the heat at an August football game is like complaining about going to your mother-in-laws for Sunday dinner.
Don't tell me your doubts. I got enough of my own. Tell me something you believe in.
Brother Dave Gardner05/24/2014 at 7:19 AM #52332
I just don’t like the kickoff time. I sit in the east side and while I can take it, it won’t create a pleasant experience for my 6 year old.
Hell, you combine this game time, expected temperature and opponent – as bjd indicated you should probably pay fans for the game.
I do think it would be a great gesture for yow to spend the entire game on the east side of.the stands. Show up early and not.leave until game is over.05/24/2014 at 9:07 AM #52334
This would be a perfectly interesting schedule, and appropriate for our team’s development:
Mississippi State05/24/2014 at 11:00 PM #52347
Attendance has been down across all of college football — even the SEC.
FSU is actually a good example of how the watered-down schedules are affecting attendance. They’ve had only a handful of sellouts the past few seasons and averaged only around 75,000 (88% capacity) in their 2013 national championship season.05/25/2014 at 3:27 AM #52348
You all realize Ga Southern beat Florida at the Swamp last year, right? And that they were probably scheduled as supplemental
prep for GT?
The former makes having them on the schedule even worse, the latter makes it better.05/25/2014 at 7:43 AM #52349
They beat Florida in the swamp last year…without completing a single pass.05/26/2014 at 6:03 AM #52363
Uh yeah. That’s what option offenses do. Not rely on the pass.05/26/2014 at 9:01 AM #52368
I think most people agree that Georgia Southern is not the problem with this year’s schedule. Nor is THIS YEAR necessarily the problem. It’s the constant degradation of our schedule, and the fact that we provide so little value for our shareholders.05/27/2014 at 5:57 AM #52378
Right. I was responding to what I perceived as disregard for Ga Southern as a quality opponent, if not a quality draw.05/27/2014 at 11:17 AM #52381
For the record, my comment was meant to reinforce yours.
Like App, Georgia Southern was a longtime I-AA powerhouse, and their win over Florida was even more impressive because they did it entirely on the ground. It’s scary to think that could’ve been — or could be — us.05/27/2014 at 7:33 PM #52388
I got that, LRM. If an option team doesn’t attempt a pass, it means all is going well, extremely well. No pass attempts means there was no need to try.
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