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  • StateFans's Avatar
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    • Jan 2013
    • 167

    Big 12 exploring alliance with ACC

    #1
    The Austin-American Statesman shared this news.

    It sounds like there is no real structure to the idea yet, but I like anyone in sports who is willing to think outside of the box and try to explore new ways of doing things.

    Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby said the league is actively exploring a possible alliance with the Atlantic Coast Conference and two other unspecified leagues for the purposes of scheduling, marketing and possibly even television partnerships, an arrangement that might prevent further expansion.

    “We’ve had conversations with three other leagues,” Bowlsby told the American-Statesman on Friday afternoon. “The ACC is one of them. It’s a process of discovery that would provide some of the benefits of larger membership without actually adding members.”

    Bowlsby declined to name the other two leagues, but the Pac-12 Conference is presumed to be one of them because that 12-team league faces significant geographical obstacles to expansion. The Pac-12 and Big Ten had announced the framework for a similar alliance more than a year ago, but the arrangement didn’t come to fruition.

    Bowlsby said the possibilities for alliances and expansion would be discussed during a two-day gathering of the Big 12 athletic directors that begins Monday in Grapevine. He stressed, however, that “certainly nothing is imminent” regarding a potential alliance with another conference. Bowlsby was scheduled to be in Austin on Saturday to address a group of aspiring athletic directors who are part of a sports-management institute.

    Asked if a consensus to stand pat at 10 members remains in place within the Big 12, Bowlsby said, “I haven’t had any indication that is not the case. We want to do this by empirical evidence, not gut reaction. That may lead us back to 10 (teams) or somewhere else.”

    A partnership between the Big 12 and other leagues would include football and basketball, but it could expand to other sports. The agreement also could involve participation between the leagues in bowl games to “share post-season inventory, allowing us more flexibility” to set up attractive matchups.

    “It’s purely exploratory,” said Bowlsby, who added that the leagues involved have had “multiple discussions” about the subject.

    Bowlsby said the potential move should not be interpreted as a precursor to future expansion in light of the SEC’s additions of Texas A&M; and Missouri and the Big Ten’s more recent move to invite Maryland from the ACC and Rutgers from the Big Ten.

    “If anything, it’s the opposite,” Bowlsby said. “You can begin to get some advantages without taking on any of the disadvantages (of expansion). It’s one option that allows benefits. It’s kind of like friends with benefits.”
  • triadwolf's Avatar
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    • Jan 2013
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    #2
    “We’ve had conversations with three other leagues,”

    Assuming they're BCS conferences, 4 out of 5 are involved in discussions? Is the alliance proposed with all the conferences involved in discussions or just the Big 12 and one other? Seems silly that an alliance involving 80% of the major conference schools is worth anything or can be managed effectively. Maybe I'm just missing something.

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    • Tractor57's Avatar
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      • Jan 2013
      • 36

      #3
      If this is true isn't that essentially BCS-II?

      Like triadwolf I don't see the advantage - unless the discussions involve dumping the NCAA.

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      • Wufpacker's Avatar
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        • Jan 2013
        • 281

        #4
        Originally posted by Tractor57
        Like triadwolf I don't see the advantage - unless the discussions involve dumping the NCAA.
        From your keyboard to God's inbox...I hope.

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        • Avid109's Avatar
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          • Jan 2013
          • 6

          #5
          Maybe the Big 12 is afraid that it might be in trouble. All it would take is for Texas to leave and they'd be in deep doo-doo.

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          • FunPack's Avatar
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            • Jan 2013
            • 40

            #6
            Originally posted by Avid109
            Maybe the Big 12 is afraid that it might be in trouble. All it would take is for Texas to leave and they'd be in deep doo-doo.
            Especially if they take Oklahoma with them. Big 12 would be forked.

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            • PackerInRussia's Avatar
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              • Jan 2013
              • 81

              #7
              Would it be beneficial to work out some kind of deal where there are guaranteed non-conference games between the two leagues or even some kind of early season tournament in bball? Something along the lines of what Notre Dame is doing in football where there's a loose association, but no kind of membership.

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              • Island Wolf's Avatar
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                • Jan 2013
                • 22

                #8
                Interesting! They couldn't find someone else to play with? Maybe some kind of agreenment in regular season matchups but don't make it too restrictive. I like flexibiltity in scheduling. However; we could get some tougher out of conference games this way. Seems we are scheduling any as it is.

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                • WV Wolf's Avatar
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                  • Jan 2013
                  • 38

                  #9
                  The Big 12 is also looking at raiding the ACC depending on what the Big Ten and SEC do.
                  http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...t-in-expansion

                  The Big 12 expressed widespread satisfaction with its 10-team model during a Monday meeting with athletic directors but still identified potentially available schools that the Big Ten and Southeastern Conference likely wouldn't target as expansion options, CBSSports.com has learned.

                  The Big 12 pointed out in its closed-door, four-hour meeting at the Four Seasons Las Colinas that the Big Ten, should it expand, would likely push for schools already included in the Association of American Universities – in the ACC, that list includes Virginia, UNC, Pitt, Georgia Tech and Duke.


                  The conference also explained the SEC, should it expand, would likely gravitate toward schools from states where it doesn't have a presence – in the ACC, that includes schools in Virginia (UVA, Virginia Tech) or North Carolina (UNC, Duke, N.C. State, Wake Forest).


                  Based on that information, the conference identified teams that would be left, including reputable football schools Florida State, Clemson and Louisville.

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                  • gumbydammit's Avatar
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                    • Jan 2013
                    • 15

                    #10
                    "The meeting also addressed the league's curiosity with Bowlsby's proposed alliance with the ACC – “friends with benefits,” he calls it."

                    Ummmm..last time I checked, the definition of "friends with benefits" was friends that $%@# each other...

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                    • Rick's Avatar
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                      • Jan 2013
                      • 56

                      #11
                      Maybe the Big 12 is afraid that it might be in trouble. All it would take is for Texas to leave and they'd be in deep doo-doo.
                      Just as the ACC is if FSU leaves.

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                      • ruffles31's Avatar
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                        • Jan 2013
                        • 32

                        #12
                        Does this mean a home and home with Iowa State in Ames? Yippee!!

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                          SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT UP! *head explodes*
                      • StateFans's Avatar
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                        • Jan 2013
                        • 167

                        #13
                        Every one of the articles that I have seen on this topic keep citing television revenue numbers for the ACC in the $17MM to $20MM range. I think a lot of people expect the renegotiating of the ACC's TV contract (now that we have Notre Dame & Louisville) to generate more money than that. Almost every educated piece I've read indicates that the ACC's TV revenue per school will be larger than that of the Big 12. The ONLY way the Big 12 ever ends up with any ACC schools is if the B1G and SEC pull off a coup first.

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