Gottfried Fired (Officially)

As much as I do enjoy a good firing, the fact Gottfried will finish the season — I’ll let y’all speculate why — gives me no confidence our current leadership has any control of this program. We all know this program has the potential to make a great hire (evidenced by John Calipari confirming he had initially accepted the State job in 2006), but for whatever the reasons (start with former AD incompetence and work down the list), that hasn’t happened.

I hope I’m wrong, but hope isn’t a strategy and nothing our administration has done in the past 30 years — since our last ACC title — suggests we can expect a great hire this time. We want to believe Archie Miller would take the job because he (and his wife) is one of us, and despite three decades of irrelevance, we’re loyal to a fault and that’s what we would do.

But with (at least) a month remaining in Dayton’s season, all we can really do now is agonize over the rumors and unsubstantiated speculation based wholly on what that unnamed Top Donor with the inside scoop told our buddy’s buddy. Who knows, maybe we’ll finally get Rick Barnes.

Now, I encourage everyone to get out to RDU and start tracking tail numbers.

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  • #118033

    LRM
    Keymaster

    NC State formally announces that Mark Gottfried will not be back after coaching out the season pic.twitter.com/rk18cElQGK— Mark Armstrong (@Arms
    [See the full post at: Gottfried Fired (Officially)]

    #118040

    eas
    Participant

    Why you fire someone then keep them until the end of the season is pure stupidity. If I were Gott I would roll dice on the bench during the games. Baby needs shoes….

    #118043

    eas
    Participant

    Maybe we already have a replacement locked in but have to wait out the Tournament. That way we don’t look like idiots and everyone is bugging us on the coaching search. Maybe it’s meant to deflect a few weeks of silence.

    #118047

    MCG95
    Participant

    Now is the time, like tonight, to bring Julius Hodge on as interim Head Coach. He will excite the players, he can’t coach any worse, and it’s a great opportunity for all involved. If it doesn’t go well, what have we lost? If he excites all, we could have our long term answer. He’s going to be a great recruiter and Head Coach someday, why not give him a chance right now for the rest of this season? Nobody will work harder or bring more excitement for the rest of the season.

    #118050

    TheAliasTroll
    Participant

    lol you guys need to stop asking for Hodge to be the interim coach.. you want to talk about an athletic program looking like a full fledged charlie foxtrot circus..

    #118051

    wolfbuff
    Participant

    Loyal to a fault? We are as long as things are going right maybe. You can’t make that statement if we’re going to a boo your coach in front of the players in your own arena. Look, I had seen enough by half time of the FIRST carolina game to know Gottfried needed to go. Let’s all show true Wolfpack class and wish Gottfried well – somewhere else.

    #118052

    Adventuroo
    Participant

    It’s over…..with little fanfare. This has been going on since Sunday. DY was tied up all day and not at the Women’s game. That was the first telling sign. The second was the snitch, or maybe the planned leak.

    I don’t buy for a second that the leak came from the AD’s office. I think it came from the Gottfried Camp as part of the negotiations over severance or buyout.

    Putting in someone to lead the team as an interim when you really have your sites set on an outside contender does nothing but create chaos.

    If you really wanted to send a message, then you would want Gottfried to jump from the Bell Tower and proclaim on his way down that he was not a good coach.

    He did a good to great job in the beginning and then lost his way via his crotch’s needs. BUT, we were not doing that badly, so we looked the other way. THEN would have been the time.

    His request to finish out the season is not that unrealistic. SO, let it play out. The team does have some loyalty to him, so let them deal with it rather than a “DO IT OUR WAY” traumatic end.

    If they rally and make a run, then we might be able to blame some of it on them as they certainly have NOT shown any consistency.

    Odds are, we will win a game or two and still be eligible for the Brooklyn fiasco….or the NCAA Anti NC HB2 Extravaganza….

    Never planned on going there anyway…..

    All that is left is to speculate on WHO….How’d that work out last time? How many posters, me included, had Gottfried at the TOP of our list or even ON the list?. It was more of a Mark Who from WHERE?

    #118053

    packalum44
    Participant

    Debbie Yow has a terrific track record of identifying coaching talent in various sports. One average hire (Mark was not a bad hire just average) does not make her an awful AD. Whether we score Archie Miller or not, the search is in very capable hands.

    #118055

    duckfatrules
    Participant

    Is there realistically zero chance that a coach is named before that coach is finished in the NCAA?
    step one – fire coach – 2/16/17
    step 2 – announce a new coach – April
    are we basically in limbo for the next month with zero chance for any new information between now and then? they do it in football but it seems never in basketball.
    is there any chance a coach is locked up but not announced until after NCAA?
    Or, as Archie says, no one is willing to spend brain energy on where they may coach next year.

    #118056

    ryebread
    Participant

    It’s over now and everyone can move on. The school can officially search. The players can play loose and for themselves. We can start re-recruiting them because they know they won’t be coached by Gott. Gott may actually feel the freedom to try some “crazy” things like full court presses, going 10 deep, etc. because what does he really have to lose? The fans can be civil. We will likely put a better product on the court.

    No interim coach is needed or should be hired. That should only be done if one thinks they want the interim coach. What happens if that interim goes on a little run? Fools Gold given all the pressure is off. Just let Gott coach it out.

    As for his tenure, it was a bad hire initially, but we got a couple of good seasons out of it. We ended up where I thought we’d be. Thanks goes to Gott and all those who were involved in the good years.

    I hope we hire better this time. We hopefully have been working on this for a while.

    #118061

    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    It hurts a bit to watch a good man self-destruct…

    But when you’re not happy and GOTT no place to go…
    you sit…

    Next year was setting up to be a high risk – carbon copy repeat of this year…
    Nothing was gonna break the fall except a termination…

    Coach busted his a## for us… thank you Coach for that….
    —————-

    Coach you’re gonna be OK… a little rest, a little vacation…
    Then something you enjoy will come your way…

    #OverTwentyYearsCheating?
    #118062

    BJD95
    Keymaster

    I don’t have any hard feelings, so long as everybody from the current side doesn’t leave and we have to start from scratch. Or we go on probation. I don’t rate either of those scenarios as super likely, so I wish him well in his future life/erotic adventures.

    #118063

    TheAliasTroll
    Participant

    Why are there some folks on here that think the NCAA might be investigating us?

    #118064

    BassPacker
    Participant

    What university gives a fired basketball coach a 2 week work notice? SHM. NC State is a joke when it comes to handling change. Kick his butt to the curb, let an associate coach finish the season. If he ain’t good enough for next year, he ain’t good enuff for 2 more weeks. Guess he needs more time to pack those trophies. More like more time to tell his trophy girlfriends goodbye.

    #118065

    TheCOWDOG
    Moderator

    Debbie Yow has a terrific track record of identifying coaching talent in various sports. One average hire (Mark was not a bad hire just average) does not make her an awful AD. Whether we score Archie Miller or not, the search is in very capable hands.

    Take note. I did.

    #118066

    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    BJ…

    The Old Tree in the backyard says…
    We’re not going on probation…
    unless there’s something in the fine print for “sucking”….

    … and we ARE starting over… no other way to look at it honestly….

    The only question is with whom…
    Let’s get the Coach thing right and I’m betting the players take care of themselves…

    To GOTT’s credit… we are “starting over” at a much, much better place than with the last 2 or 3 Coaches…
    Thank you Coach for that!

    #OverTwentyYearsCheating?
    #118069

    BJD95
    Keymaster

    You’ve at least got a reasonable foundation of ACC-caliber players in GFK, Markell, Dorn, Kapita, and two wild cards in Frenchie and Tall Atsur. I’d like them to come back.

    #118070

    TheAliasTroll
    Participant

    Again, why are there some folks on here that think the NCAA might be investigating us? Where did that come from?

    #118071

    TheAliasTroll
    Participant

    Also, where did the rumors of coaches knickers often coming down originate? Posters here now I guess are just running with that like it’s proven fact.

    Let’s get this all out in the open and quit talking around it

    #118072

    VaWolf82
    Keymaster

    Whether we score Archie Miller or not, the search is in very capable hands

    You obviously missed the clusterfuck that ended up with Gott in Raleigh.

    #118074

    TheCOWDOG
    Moderator

    AT…it came from real trolls…Okay? Nothing within, always from without!

    #118075

    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    You’ve at least got a reasonable foundation of ACC-caliber players in GFK, Markell, Dorn, Kapita, and two wild cards in Frenchie and Tall Atsur. I’d like them to come back.

    I’d like everybody to come back…. including Mr. Smith…
    another year in Rawlee would mean something to him… long term…

    #OverTwentyYearsCheating?
    #118076

    highstick
    Participant

    I just want to track “tail numbers’ one more time!

    Haven’t seen this “probation situation”! That would almost be hilarious! We could declare outright war on Swofford and have some fun!

    Come to think about it, we might even find the guts to get out of the ACC and tell them to “FU”! Forget the money cause Swoff’s violated the terms of the agreement anyway!

    "Whomp 'em, Up, Side the Head"!

    #118077

    TheAliasTroll
    Participant

    AT…it came from real trolls…Okay? Nothing within, always from without!

    that’s exactly what I figured.. these festering rumors turn into gospel around here after a while.. let’s be classy and nip it in the bud

    #118082

    pakfanistan
    Participant

    Gottfried has nothing for the collection of the glass menagerie.

    Rather, do these trinkets give a flying pigs ass about themselves and teammies? There comes a time, ya know.

    If they’re so damned talented, they should know this by rote…by now.

    http://www.wralsportsfan.com/ncsu/audio/16533768/

    Starting @ 6:05

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