Oh look, Technician suddenly has time to write articles! [Updated 6:46pm]

Oh look, Technician suddenly has time to write articles!…and, they are just my ‘favorite’ kind of articles where some douchebag who doesn’t know jack shit about NC State history sits on a throne and ordains that they are better fans than everyone else!!! (GREAT MOVE, TECHNICIAN!!! Just what you need to be doing right now — ATTACKING your fellow fans in a week where you lazy sons of bitches couldn’t even produce a single paper that is one of the only fun ‘traditions’ this dying rivalry has to claim).

I mean, does it get better than some snotty nosed douche generation that hasn’t achieved or experienced a damn thing in their life claiming the moral high ground to judge everyone else?

Since we at SFN get about about 100x the web traffic of Technician, we’ll help them out with some clicks today so that you can see what I mean — Wolfpack fans need to grow up.

State brought its best. Carolina brought its best. The Heels were simply a little bit better. That’s the long and short of it. It was a great college basketball game, and anyone who thinks otherwise should just quit watching basketball altogether.

As usual, Wolfpack students and fans took to social media blaming the officiating for the loss. They didn’t blame costly turnover deep in overtime that allowed the Tar Heels to tie the game. There was no mention of a missed free throw with 7.7 seconds left. Pack fans also conveniently forgot how State’s defense rolled out the red carpet for Paige, allowing the sophomore to waltz straight to the basket for the game-winning score. Michael Jackson could’ve done the moonwalk down that lane and scored with no trouble. By the time Warren came over to valiantly contest the shot, it was too late.

According to Wolfpack fans, it was clearly the officiating that caused N.C. State to lose to its biggest rival for the 22nd time in 24 meetings, just like it always is when State loses to a team wearing blue.

Frankly, it’s embarrassing to see our fans spew stuff like that on the Internet.

Well…at least SOMEONE is spewing SOMETHING on the internet…unlike Technician that was ‘too busy’ to actually produce a simple paper that they had 364 days to prepare. It ain’t like you don’t know that Carolina will be playing at NC State ‘next year’.

Frankly, it’s embarrassing that so many otherwise educated people can’t grasp the simple intellectual premise that when a team has to deal with MORE challenges than their opponent then that team has a lower probability of winning the game. The actual PURPOSE for having referees is to officiate the contest so that each team has an equal probability to win the game based on how the clearly defined rules of the game. Using Ockham’s Razor to carve away the impacts to a game of venue, and talent, and coaching and intangibles and all other differentiators, the simple purpose of officiating is to apply the rules of the game in a consistent and accurate manner.

How has it become such blasphemy for many to acknowledge and so impossible for some to admit that it sucks when officiating makes it HARDER for your team to win than would be the case if the rules were competently and consistently applied? The point isn’t that NC State ‘lost the game (or any other game) BECAUSE of officiating’. The point is that whenever blatantly bad officiating skews against one team it becomes relatively and comparably more difficult for that team to win the game.

OF COURSE ‘we had our chances’ to do more and to win. But why/how in the hell does it make sense that we HAVE to DO MORE than our opponent(s) to win a game? How has it become acceptable for many State fans (and all of the media) to literally support the idea that NC State SHOULD have to do more than their opponents have to do win games? That may sound strange to you, but that is EXACTLY the position you support any and every time you admit that there is bad officiating, “BUT we had our chances and we didn’t convert”. I’m not even making the argument that State got jobbed on Wednesday night or at Syracuse or at Wake or in any game this year. I am simply addressing the point that I can’t intellectually understand how so many people can proclaim that they think we got some bad calls AND simultaneously say that it shouldn’t matter and we still had chances. That is insane.

Argue the quality of officiating on Wednesday night all you want. But, you’ll be arguing with the announcers who didn’t agree with the Tyler Lewis foul call with 3 seconds to go. And, you’ll be arguing with Mark Gottfried. And, you’ll be arguing with Debbie Yow. And, you’ll be arguing with TJ Warren who committed 1 of his called four fouls and therefore was forced NC State to have to play a completely different defense for much of the game. And you’ll be arguing with what the whole world can see:

But…we know your generation and realize that you simply HAVE TO ARGUE. You just can’t help yourself. And you can only express yourself in bursts of 140 characters of snark and condescension. So, argue away!

Here’s some news for you, Wolfpack Nation: When you’ve only beaten a team twice in 10 years, it’s not the refs’ fault.

Here’s some news for you, Pre-PubertyNation, there is absolutely no relevance of NC State-UNC games in 2004 to this conversation. And, officiating in those games is also irrelevant UNLESS you want to discuss the robbing that took place on national television in the 2012 ACC semi-finals when ACC official, Brian Dorsey, actually told our head basketball coach to ‘shut your fucking ass up’. (Link to entry at the time) You know…2012…the year that the ACC officials were moronic enough to put the initials ‘KH’ on their shoes in solidarity and support for Karl Hess who was not allowed to officiate the ACC Tournament because of protest from NC State.

Here’s a fun one for you sage brainiacs at Technician who know so much about this topic that you chose to run this article. Guess what ACC game on Wednesday night that BRIAN DORSEY happened to officiate? Now, why in the world some of us ‘bad fans’ be a little skeptical about the balance of officiating in a State-Carolina game?

Wait a second…maybe you are actually on to something; maybe only 2 wins in 10 years is VERY relevant when you start looking at those games and it doesn’t become so strange how one team can dominate!? Want to argue that, too? Before you do you should head on down to Case and Dail and talk to the folks over there about how they feel about that officiating. But, what do they know? I bet Debbie and Mark are just ‘bad fans’ for having eyes and common sense. If only THEY could be as enlightened as Technician!

Since you brought up the last ten years, please do us the favor of telling us where you were and what you were doing during the State-Carolina games in 2004 (when you couldn’t have been more than 13 years old). I am 100% serious. Do tell us all where you were at those games…maybe I saw you there!! You see, most of us were AT those games. Both of those games. Just like we were at the games in 1994. And, just like many of the authors here were at the State-Carolina games in 1984. And, just like a few of the authors here were at both games in 1974.

So, please tell us more about how bad of fans we are for paying for lifetime rights and season tickets and investing time, money and effort into NC State Basketball for the better part of forty friggin years. Especially since you’ve done SO MUCH to earn your position to tell us all how bad we are.

Fuck off, Technician. And take Twitter with you.

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  • #43913
    packof81
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    I find it galling that the Technician would publish such an editorial. It’s writer has angered many fans and alumni including this one.

    The column mainly berates us for complaining about ACC basketball officiating but does not refute the claims that we have been on the losing end of many close games due to controversial calls/no calls. Poster NavyWolf listed some recent examples but this practice goes back decades. And as he pointed out, nobody is more weary of it than we are. Yes, there is a pattern here, a very old pattern. And there’s a growing body of video evidence.

    When Boeheim had his meltdown at the Duke game, I was thinking there ya go Jim. Welcome to the ACC.

    #43914
    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    ^History and context of the History and context…..

    1. 1961-62… NCAA investigation results in probation, transfer of players, and firing of one coach.
    2. 1973… NCAA investigation that resulted in a one year probation.
    3. 1983… NCAA investigation into the recruitment of a player from Greensboro Page results in no penalties.

    Conclusion: Both sides had been going at each other in a pretty evenly matched battle for decades prior to the Fall of Valvano.

    Please do not forget this….
    In 1989-90-91… the folks who were the determining factors in the final outcome of the FALL of Valvano.. were not from Orange County and did not wear blue…. they were Inside-Inside-NCSTATE-people…. a fact that some other people have never forgiven.

    #NCSU-North Carolina's #1 FOOTBALL school!
    #43928
    tjfoose1
    Participant

    ^ I have not forgotten. But those “Inside-Inside-NCSTATE-people” were anti college athletics, anti Valvano, self centered, self absorbed corrupt egomaniacs who took the opportunity to pile on, given the green light by the pitch forks and torches of the William Friday, BOT, N&O led mob.

    I question that they were actually “NCSTATE-people”. I suggest they were more of the Larry Nielsen/ Mary Easley type, ie, the inside, politically connected who used NC State as a conduit for self enrichment from the purse strings of the powerful. Their job was to not rock the boat, do as they’re told, and take home their paycheck.

    #43953
    highstick
    Participant

    Can you “edit” on here anymore??? So I can fix my “fat fingered” posts??? And not get a D in English 111?

    "Whomp 'em, Up, Side the Head"!

    #43954
    pakfanistan
    Participant

    Can you “edit” on here anymore??? So I can fix my “fat fingered” posts??? And not get a D in English 111?

    You can, but you gotta do it quick. I think the timeout for editing is less than five minutes.

    #44357
    klpiercy
    Participant

    Great post!! As a 2012 alum, and NC State Legacy I couldn’t agree with the lifetime viewers of Nc State athletics more. I am forwarding this via social media to “my generation” maybe someone will learn a lesson.

    PS. I heard the student that wrote this article didn’t even attend Wednesday Nights game vs. Carolina. He was apparently “too drunk” to enter PNC. What a joke of an article by the Technician.

    #44371
    Rick
    Keymaster

    I am guessing he wrote that article while he was drunk as well

    #44428
    Wolfman 9806
    Participant

    Too funny! Great article. I didn’t think anyone took student newspapers seriously anyway. Thought it as just a way to get chicks while in school. Haha

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