NC STATE at DUKE PREVIEW

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Time: 2:00 pm
TV: CBS
Announcers: Kevin Harlan, Bill Raftery

This isn’t your traditional Duke team, they have a huge offensive punch but lack the shutdown defense that has come to be expected of a Duke team. Plus they lack any height inside, that is where they are vulnerable, if you take advantage of it.

If State can pound the ball inside and somehow avoid foul trouble then I think the Pack can make a game of this. Of course if the “tendencies” are called then the game is already over.

There’s no sugar coating this, the Pack sucks on defense. In fact it’s my biggest problem with Gottfried, none of his players every exhibit basic fundamental defensive principles, just a lot of standing and reaching in while no one ever talks to each other. “The legs feed the wolf” and the defense feeds the offense, it’s that simple and yet we can’t seem to grasp this notion. It’s going to be a long day on defense, at least we won’t have to worry about the Pack’s bad defensive rebounding since Duke won’t miss many shots and even if they do I’m sure a “foul” was committed.

Prediction:

KenPom likes Duke by 14. I think this game will be over in the first 5 minutes but the Pack will find a way to give us just enough hope to keep watching.

Watchability:

Attending a One Direction Concert. Look, this will likely make your eyes bleed. Turn it on and find something else to do while it’s on in the background.

NEWS CLIPS:

Joe Giglio (N&O)
NC State has ‘big’ advantage against Duke

“In previous games, we haven’t been as aggressive as we should be,” Anya said. “We were more aggressive at Wake and I think you’ll see more of that the rest of the year.”

The Wolfpack’s interior success came against Wake’s man defense in the first half, and that’s how the UCLA system is supposed to work, with the offense flowing through the bigs, who have to be aggressive.

Getting his young post players to be assertive has been a challenge for Gottfried, whose first two N.C. State teams were driven by the post production of C.J. Leslie and Richard Howell.

“Our young guys, they’re good,” Gottfried said. “For our team to develop into the best we can become, our big guys need to develop.”

Before the season, Gottfried knew his quarter of inexperienced post options — even Vandenberg, a fifth-year senior, played sparingly before this season — wouldn’t match the production of Leslie and Howell, the two leading scorers from the 2012-13 team. Leslie (15.1 points per game) and Howell (12.7) accounted for 35.9 percent of the Pack’s scoring last season (27.8 of its 77.4 points per game).

Through 17 games, the quartet of Vandenberg-Anya-Washington-Freeman have combined for 16.8 points per game or 23.2 percent of the team’s 72.5 points per game. That’s not enough, not in a system predicated on the production of its forwards.

“Our bigs need to touch the ball more,” Gottfried said. “It’s something that we’ve tried to make a point of emphasis, I thought the first half (at Wake Forest) we did a great job of that.”

Luke DeCock (N&O)
Wolfpack looks for first win against Krzyzewski at Duke since ’88

It has been years – decades – since N.C. State last beat a Duke team coached my Mike Krzyzewski in Cameron Indoor Stadium.

There isn’t a player on either team who was even close to being born. Some weren’t born in 1995, when Krzyzewski stepped aside for Pete Gaudet and N.C. State was one of six ACC teams to beat Duke in Cameron.

1988.

“Wow,” Duke guard Quinn Cook said. “We would definitely like to continue that streak.”

The Wolfpack appears to have two of the ingredients needed to upset Duke this season: A perimeter penetration threat and inside scoring. That formula worked for Notre Dame and it worked for Clemson, although both games were on the road. (Duke’s two other losses, to Kansas and Arizona, were on more even terms.)

For the Irish, that was Michigan State transfer Garrick Sherman (14 points) on the inside and Eric Atkins (19 points, 11 assists) on the outside. For the Tigers, it was K.J. McDaniels (24 points) on the inside and Rod Hall (11 points, four assists) on the outside.

N.C. State’s two best players just happen to be 6-foot-8 forward T.J. Warren, who leads the ACC at 22.2 points per game, and speedy freshman point guard Cat Barber, who excels at blowing past defenders and getting to the rim.

Stephen Schramm (fayobserver.com)
ACC Basketball: Three to know for N.C. State at No. 23 Duke

1. In need of a lift

Duke comes into today’s game looking to nurse some fragile momentum while the Wolfpack just hopes to start some.

On Friday, Duke guard Rasheed Sulaimon called Monday night’s dramatic 69-64 victory against Virginia as a “must-win.”

He has a point. If the Cavaliers had been able to hold on to their slim lead in the final minute, it would have dropped Duke to 1-3 in the ACC and turn the slight unrest created by road losses to Notre Dame and Clemson into a full-on panic.

But down by a point, Sulaimon hit a clutch 3 and Amile Jefferson hit a pair of free throws to give Duke the win.

“After the game, everybody felt good personally and collectively as a team about the team that we beat and the fashion that we beat them in,” Sulaimon said. “It was definitely a confidence boost for us and we know if we play like that, we can continue to string up wins.”

Meanwhile, N.C. State is in dire need of something to feel good about. Starting with a Dec. 28 loss at home to Missouri, N.C. State has just two wins in its last four games, and one of those victories was a shaky one at UNC-Greensboro.

The Wolfpack showed some signs of progress on Wednesday night at Wake Forest, overcoming an early deficit and leading for most of the second half. But a late layup by Codi-Miller McIntyre ended up dealing the Wolfpack a 70-69 loss.

3. Lewis questionable

N.C. State could be thin at point guard as the status of sophomore Tyler Lewis is in doubt.

Lewis played six minutes early but missed the second half against Wake Forest due to illness. He was so uncomfortable that he briefly left the bench.

Stephen Schramm (fayobserver.com)
N.C. State’s big men must step up against Duke

After Thursday’s practice had wrapped up, N.C. State forward Lennard Freeman was surrounded by a cluster of reporters, barely containing his excitement for today’s trip to face No. 23 Duke, saying it’s been something he’s looked forward to.

Meanwhile, fellow freshman BeeJay Anya lurked largely unnoticed just behind the cameras, trying to distract Freeman with a mischievous smile.

In that moment, it was easy to remember that the two are 18 years old and just 17 games into their college careers. But today, if the Wolfpack is to break nearly two decades of frustration at Duke and end its run of recent struggles, Anya, Freeman and the rest of the Wolfpack’s big men will need to play beyond their years.

With four losses in its last six games, N.C. State (11-6 overall, 1-3 ACC) has entered a period of reassessment. It knows that when it opens things up for sophomore forward T.J. Warren, the ACC’s leading scorer, things go well. When it runs into a zone defense, which slows down its high-post offense, limits Warren and exploits the Wolfpack’s suspect outside shooting, things usually don’t.

But Wolfpack coach Mark Gottfried sees a solution.

In Wednesday night’s 70-69 loss to Wake Forest, the Wolfpack’s big men proved to be a reliable source of scoring. Anya, Freeman, fellow freshman Kyle Washington and senior Jordan Vandenberg combined to go 9 of 13 for 22 points. They also had 21 rebounds, helping the Wolfpack to a decisive advantage in points in the paint (36-24) and second-chance points (23-4).

While much of it is young, with five players that are 6-foot-8 or taller, the Wolfpack does have size. And against the Demon Deacons, N.C. State showed how effective it can be when it uses it.

“For our team to develop into the best that we can become, our big guys have got to develop,” Gottfried said. “We’ve got to get them the ball along the way.”

GoPack.com
919 Showdown: NC State at Duke On Saturday

Two of college basketball’s storied programs will take the court Saturday afternoon when NC State travels to No. 23 Duke at 2 p.m. The 238th meeting between the Wolfpack and the Blue Devils will be on CBS.

The two teams split last season, with the home team winning each contest. Wolfpack fans rushed the court after NCSU’s 84-76 win last January at PNC Arena. The victory in Raleigh came when Duke was ranked No. 1 and hadn’t yet lost.

NC State (11-6, 1-3) will go into Cameron Indoor Stadium with the ACC’s leading scorer T.J. Warren, who averages 22.2 points per game. Warren scored 22 in NC State’s last game, a 70-69 loss at Wake Forest that the Wolfpack led for most of the night. NCSU has won three of its last four road contests.

Duke (13-4, 2-2) is coming off a close win over Virginia, a team NC State played last Saturday. The Blue Devils are led by freshman Jabari Parker, who averages 18.8 points and 7.3 rebounds per game.

After playing Duke, NC State has a quick turnaround before it hosts Maryland Monday, Jan. 20 at 9 p.m.

1. SCHEDULING QUIRK
In a scheduling quirk, NC State will be playing its fourth game at Duke in the last five meetings between the two schools. The Wolfpack played at Cameron Indoor in 2011 and in the schools’ only meeting in 2012. The two Triangle schools played a home-and-home last season and now the Wolfpack is back at Duke for Saturday’s contest. Since 2008, six of the 10 meetings between the two schools have been in Durham.

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  • #37359

    1.21 Jigawatts
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    Time: 2:00 pm TV: CBS Announcers: Kevin Harlan, Bill Raftery This isn’t your traditional Duke team, they have a huge offensive punch but lack the shut
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    #37365

    PoppaJohn
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    I think you hit it on the head. We’ll get behind early and never catch up – there will be glimmers of hope to encourage us, (we cut it to 10!!!) but we’ll be heartbroken at the end.

    However, DU is so much better than us that I can’t get too emotionally engaged. It would be a historic upset that I just can’t imagine. Especially if Tyler is still sick. I think we need him to avoid getting too frustrated and for his passing skills if we are going to get it inside.

    What’s on at the movies at say, 2:00?

    #37366

    Prowling Woofie
    Participant

    Scheduling quirk… yep

    #37367

    BJD95
    Keymaster

    It’s too bad for my overwhelming sense of malaise and dread…I would enjoy hearing Bill Raftery announce our game for a nice change of pace. Highly doubt our wolven efforts will be Onions! worthy…

    #37368

    Wulfpack
    Participant

    We’re on the ropes and everyone knows it. We will play with heart and play well, but it won’t go our way in the end. Our nemesis Maryland would essentially then be in a position to put us out of our misery. This team would not be able to come back from a 1-5 start, no question about that. So Maryland, IMHO, becomes the game of the year. You cannot lose that one.

    #37369

    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Wake was already must-win for me, so I am just trying to enjoy them in a Gonzo sense now. Jigs’ insane matchup avatars help quite a bit, Hunter S. Thompson would have approved.

    #37370

    wufpup76
    Participant

    Thanks so much for putting this together.

    Hope for the best.

    #37372

    Wufpacker
    Keymaster

    Useful Medical Trivia: Alcohol was once used as a form of anesthesia.

    Just saying.

    #37373

    BJD95
    Keymaster

    An album for good mojo?

    #37374

    TMD11
    Participant

    The team needs to focus on improving a game at a time, learning how to play basketball together at this level in Gott’s scheme. Duke has more talent, more smarts…and will win, period.
    Then maybe by mid February we can begin winning.

    #37376

    Wufpacker
    Keymaster

    Haha….somebody in the Gameday crowd in Philly has a Sweet Dee bighead.

    Nice.

    #37377

    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    Well… my kids went out last and broke a few ‘team rules’ so I GOTT to punish them today.

    I think I’ll make them watch the State-Dook bball game from start to finish.

    As for the rest of us…
    Can we just fast forward to somewhere around 3:45pm and just watch the last two minutes ??

    -- bill.onthebeach
    #37378

    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Yay, Sweet Dee!!!!!

    Maybe make your kids write up a full report on the game, too. That’ll learn ‘em good.

    #37379

    bill.onthebeach
    Participant

    ^ Kids — write a report ? —
    It would be easier to teach our bball kids how to run a zone offense than that….

    -- bill.onthebeach
    #37380

    Wufpacker
    Keymaster

    bill running paper classes?
    Say it ain’t so.

    #37383

    ILPackfan
    Participant

    Expecting the worst today and hoping for anything better than that. Hard to believe that Jimmy V is currently the last Pack coach to beat Krzyzewski in Cameron.

    #37384

    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Although to be fair, HWSNBN and MG each really did “win” in Cameron, only to be completely f-cked over by the striped branch of the Swofford mafia.

    And I don’t make that charge lightly, I very, VERY rarely blame officiating for actually flipping a result.

    #37386

    Wufpacker
    Keymaster

    We won @Duke in ’95.
    Go Les!!!!
    (of course, just about everyone won @Duke in ’95)

    *yes, I know the distinction was made re: “K-led Duke”…just clarifying for those who might not have caught that distinction.

    #37387

    BJD95
    Keymaster

    After the home win in ’95, I stepped onto the court and yelled “we’re number EIGHT!”

    Naturally, even though we had the rare privilege of being seeded 8th in the Les Robinson Invitational that year…we still lost it.

    #37388

    wufpup76
    Participant

    ^^Two games absolutely stolen, BJD … one of which helped ruin a promising season for HWSNBN’s team. I do wonder sometimes how it would’ve possibly different if the @Duke and @Maryland games don’t get completely stolen from that HWSNBN team that season. Oh well, in the past I guess.

    #37389

    Wufpacker
    Keymaster

    It would have taken longer to be rid of him more than likely.

    #37390

    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Criminy, I had forgotten that the MD game was the same season. We entered the death spiral immediately thereafter.

    But had we not gone down said death spiral, perhaps the “weave and heave” portion of the HWSNBN era never happens…

    #37391

    BJD95
    Keymaster

    Prediction contest!

    How many will we be behind, once this UK/TN game ends and the CBS feed switches?

    I say 7, which I feel is remarkably optimistic.

    #37392

    Wufpacker
    Keymaster

    UK/UT looking to go long…maybe that’s good.

    BC fading.

    FSU surging…sort of.

    #37393

    Wufpacker
    Keymaster

    LOL BJD, I was thinking the same thing.

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