(14)Miami at (19)NC State – Game Thread

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Because Zo Brown is significantly hobbled, it seems BJD95 is too depressed to even have a raging semi (live blog, that is).  😀

Thus it will be the basic game thread today folks.

You know how these work.  Have at it.

Go Pack!

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A 2nd generation alumnus and raised since birth to be irrationally dedicated to all things NC State. Class of '88 and '92.

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472 Responses to (14)Miami at (19)NC State – Game Thread

  1. xphoenix87 02/02/2013 at 6:23 PM #

    But enough about that. After the initial devastation of seeing us lose another close one, I’m actually encouraged about where this team is. I keep coming back to Tyler Lewis and what a sensational game he played. Honestly, he had one turnover that led to a layup on the other end, and other than that he played an essentially flawless game. He guided the offense, played brilliantly (and fearlessly) on pick and rolls, pushed in transition, and managed pressure defense. The first time Miami started pushing up on him in the backcourt, I got worried. He showed himself completely capable of managing it though, and almost every time they did it he beat his man for either a foul or an open lane. I was wildly impressed by his play, and he finally showed off that vision that made him a top recruit (that over the shoulder pass to Howell was amazing). He can bring a whole new dimension to the team, and I’m glad he got this chance with Zo out. I think it makes us significantly better in the long run.

  2. ldr of the pk 75 02/02/2013 at 6:24 PM #

    Am I missing something? The team, and Lewis, took the ball with about 26 seconds and a 1 pt lead. Or do I have the time incorrect? Where was the need to shoot? Even in desperation, we had a timeout left. And WHY is the ball not ending up in the hands of the best FT shooter on the team (Woods)? Just asking.

  3. ncstatered21 02/02/2013 at 6:27 PM #

    ^^^
    There was still a 10 second different between shot and game clock I believe.

  4. Wufpacker 02/02/2013 at 6:28 PM #

    ^^ Shot clock was at 17, game clock at 26ish.

  5. elvislives 02/02/2013 at 6:28 PM #

    I agree that this makes State significantly better in the long run. It’s the short run acceptance of continually losing winnable games that is keeping me from enjoying Lewis’ incredible break-out performance today.

    I appreciate your big-picture view of the team xphoenix87. Truly. When I see the Pack consistently winning 1 possession games then I will happily and humbly give you credit for seeing light where I saw darkness.

  6. Wufpacker 02/02/2013 at 6:32 PM #

    Agreed about Lewis and that we’ll be a better team because of the time he’s getting.

    But we’ll need a strong finish to feel comfortable with our resume at this point. Five of our last nine are on the road, including return games to Duke and Carolina.

    We don’t have much room for error at this point IMHO.

  7. xphoenix87 02/02/2013 at 6:33 PM #

    4 games is not a trend, it’s a statistical anomaly.

    By the way, last year, with the same coaching staff and largely the same core team, we went 6-4 in games decided by 3 points or less. This year we’re 1-4. Did the coaches start coaching the end of games differently? Did the team get worse at finishing games? Or is it possible that, just maybe, we’ve gotten a little unlucky.

  8. tractor57 02/02/2013 at 6:37 PM #

    Losing this game sucked – period. That said I’m not going to ignore the positives – stellar play by Lewis, better than expected play by Vandy. In a game where many threw up their hands and gave the W to Miami days ago it came down to a final shot.

    Yes I can pick out many points where the play was not what I would have wished. I can also pick out many points where the play was much better than expected.

    This has the ’83 feel when Ernie Myers did his thing while Whitt was sidelined. Hopefully the difference here is Lewis will not be forgotten when Zo comes back like Myers was when Whitt returned.

    It is a process and at the season’s beginning there was no way I saw Lewis making such a contribution this year. Now we see he has progressed much but he still is a frosh like the other frosh. Talented they all are but they have not been through the wars.

  9. elvislives 02/02/2013 at 6:39 PM #

    Unlucky just feels like an unsatisfactory way to describe the shit play and awful coaching that I’ve seen at the end of the 4 conference losses by 7 total points.

    I may be in the minority, but I’m not sold that statistics necessarily predicate future results. By your logic, the Cubs have been unlucky for 104 years and are due.

  10. Wufpacker 02/02/2013 at 6:40 PM #

    Well, to answer all those questions I’d have to go back and review how/why we won/lost those games. I’m not inclined to do that.

    And yes, it’s very possible we’ve just gotten a little unlucky. Hence why I said CLOSE to being a trend….and added that we can reverse it.

  11. elvislives 02/02/2013 at 6:43 PM #

    Unlucky just feels like an unsatisfactory way to describe the 4 one-possession conference losses (by 7 points total). By your “unlucky” logic, the Chicago Cubs have been unlucky for 104 years and are due for a championship.

  12. patientwuf 02/02/2013 at 6:47 PM #

    Finish with confidence. Just too many mistakes-the tide will change. Alot positives today.

  13. xphoenix87 02/02/2013 at 6:49 PM #

    Have the Cubs consistently lost a majority of their 1 run games over those 104 years? If not, then it has absolutely nothing to do with what I’m talking about.

  14. elvislives 02/02/2013 at 6:50 PM #

    I love this team, I hate this team. Blech. Go Pack.

  15. elvislives 02/02/2013 at 6:52 PM #

    Without looking up the Cubs losses over 104 years, I feel confident that they absolutely lost more 1 run games than they won. Regardless, let’s shake hands and walk away xphoenix, this game hurts and I’m tired of the bickering.

  16. xphoenix87 02/02/2013 at 7:04 PM #

    I hope I haven’t been coming off too aggressively, I’m not irritated or anything. Analytics just happens to be a passion of mine, and I enjoy talking about it, especially when I think it paints a more positive picture for the Pack than people might think. No hard feelings.

    (P.S. – The Cubs’ winning percentage in one-run games dating back to 1901 is 49.5%, according to Baseball-Reference.com) 🙂

  17. coach13 02/02/2013 at 7:24 PM #

    The Lewis jump shot was the worst mistake. He had one hell of a game but we go to Leslie or Howell in the last possesion and get a shot AND maybe a free throw. Make 1 we go OT at worst.

  18. coach13 02/02/2013 at 7:26 PM #

    What would disappoint me most if if Lewis doesn’t get more in the 10 minute range of PT. Lo can move to the 2 to not lose many minutes. We need that depth.

  19. GAWolf 02/02/2013 at 8:49 PM #

    I’m ok with the last shot ONLY IF it’s with 1 second on the shot clock. Otherwise, knuckleheadedshit.

  20. Wulfpack 02/02/2013 at 8:49 PM #

    I agree, coach. Lewis earned at least that today. Gott has to play him. That was quite a performance for a rookie who had barely seen the floor. He can be an all American guard, I am certain.

  21. GAWolf 02/02/2013 at 8:51 PM #

    Lewis’ play is THE silver lining in this game. This will pay dividends come tournament time. Now we just need to win enough to NOT be a bubble team. And we’re one unexpected loss from being a bubble team. Our RPI is decent, but our Ws and Ls aren’t great.

  22. mak4dpak 02/02/2013 at 11:41 PM #

    No need to get down on Lewis, as he really got down on himself in the post game interview, and felt he may have lost the game for the team, but so many other factors contributed, especially when the game is on the line, and the best player on the team decides to miss his FTs. And the of course the turnovers we commited 2x in a row. But again as in all our ACC games, we could have easiiy won, and no team has dominated us, and except for OK State game, we had the chance to win all our games. So we just have to improve on our good points, which we did alot today with bench support, but again learn to play more intelligently in close games that go down to the wire. I was at the game, and it was disheartening to lose like we did, but better days are ahead, and may even start in Durham, if we come to play

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