Hess “naturally has thick skin” (his words)

We’re not overreacting here, and we’re not in the mood to let this go easily. Luckily for us, we might actually have some help from elsewhere in the blogosphere and even from, of all folks, (gasp) the media.

Courtesy of Mark Armstrong’s Twitter (ArmstrongWTVD), we’re directed to a 2008 column by Bill Hass, where Karl Hess talks about having “thick skin” (TheACC.com):

There’s no such thing as an “ACC official” per se. Instead, all the officials who work in the league are NCAA officials. The ACC carries 64 referees its roster, and about 40 of those are primary for the league. That means they can work games in other leagues, and they do, but their first priority is to fill the 30 or so ACC dates they’re offered.

It’s no surprise that Clougherty believes the officials who work in the ACC are the best in the country, but he backs it up.

Then there’s Hess, who has a PhD in marriage and family therapy and makes his living with a private psychology practice in Virginia. A four-year hoops player at Liberty University, he’s married and has two children and coaches a 13-under baseball team that won a national championship two years ago.

“I never thought about being an official,” Hess said. “When I played I thought all officials were nuts and a pain in the neck.”

Hess said he has a naturally thick skin, so he isn’t bothered by verbal insults from the stands. He believes fans paid to see a game and can yell what they want, as long as they stay in their seats.

“You’re a fan and you’re entitled to your opinion,” he said. “You have to be able to deal with that when you put that black and white shirt on and become an official. If not, you need to go home.”

I couldn’t agree more with Hess: he’s nuts, a pain in the neck, and he needs to go home.

This morning, Gugs and Fire were on The Insiders with Mike Mansicalco and Mark Thomas (WRAL):

“When a fan, spectator gets ejected from a ball game, there should be some reason why, and I think the ACC conference owes that to us to say, ‘This is why Karl Hess did that’ and we haven’t gotten that yet,” Corchiani told the Insiders.

NC State athletic director Debbie Yow requested an explanation from the ACC following Hess’ ejection of the two former players following Saturday’s game. The ACC issued a statement later that evening saying referees are allowed to remove fans at their discretion, and Hess may have not followed the right protocol in doing that and that would be reviewed with him.

“The only thing we can think of is we got underneath his skin,” Corchiani said. “We stood up. There was a handful of calls. It wasn’t just Karl Hess, it was the other two officials, that appeared to have a little thicker skin than him.”

“There was certainly no profanity used and nothing was always directed at [Hess]. We were yelling at bad calls. We cheered for them when they made good calls,” said Gugliotta. “We certainly were boisterous like fans are, but there was nothing personal said towards the officials … I don’t know what the protocol is, but there was no warning or anything. He just asked us to leave.”

Our “friends” over at Duke Basketball Report chime in (DukeBasketballReport.com):

Is it any wonder that many Wolfpack fans are freaking out – screaming about officiating conspiracies and demanding that the ACC is out to get them? Two decades of basketball frustration have been unleashed, culminating with a petition drive demanding that the administration get out of an ACC dominated by Commissioner John Swofford, a former UNC football player and official who showed his true colors when he went to Indianapolis to support UNC’s appeal of its nine major NCAA infractions.

(Just to be clear, Swofford never attended a Committee on Infractions hearing for any other ACC school during his tenure as commissioner. And he didn’t object when a UNC athletic official explained his presence by noting, “He’s a Tar Heel.”).

It’s interesting that N.C. State shot 10 more free throws than Florida State Saturday. The gap was even bigger in the first half when the Seminoles built their big lead and put the game away.

That’s what makes the ejection of Gugliotta and Corchiani so strange.

Did they think Karl Hess was the reason that State trailed by 20 points in the second half? Or were they merely venting their frustration over the way the game was going?

Still, unless I hear that the two former players where threatening or disruptive or even obscene – and the early evidence seems to be that they weren’t – I can’t understand why Hess had them ejected.

I’ve covered ACC basketball for more than 40 years and sitting on press row between the fans and the court, I’ve heard a lot of insults directed at the officials. With a couple of exceptions (thrown objects are grounds for ejection … physical threats are certainly worthy of ejection … and while I may be an old fogey, I can even see excessive profanity getting you tossed) insults hurled at an official are part of the game.

I was flabbergasted Saturday night to hear Jay Bilas defend the ejections, I think – his logic wasn’t clear – because they were two prominent former players. Hey, Jay, you are a brilliant commentator, but you’re dead wrong on this issue. If they were sitting somewhere in an official capacity – at the scorer’s table, on the bench or even on press row – that would warrented ejection. But they were fans – in the stands – and they have every fan’s inalienable right to second-guess an official.

Karl Hess is old enough to know better.

I’ll be interested to see if there’s any more fallout from this issue. The ACC’s initial response – criticizing Hess only for not following proper protocol – is ludicrously inadequate. Unless there is more evidence that we have not seen, he should be suspended for his bad judgment – if not retired.

That’s an issue that State fans have a right to be upset about. And the next time Karl “Rabbit Ears” Hess appears in Cameron, I hope the Crazies offer him some cotton balls to stuff in his ears.

Think Mark Gottfried’s ESPN connections aren’t a major positive in moving this program forward? Well, it’s getting national attention, among other places, from longtime Herb lover/apologist Andy Katz, who keeps attention on the “bizzare incident” (ESPN):

Yow told ESPN.com that what occurred this weekend was embarrassing. Yow said she doesn’t believe Hess knew what was said by Corchiani and Gugliotta. She is convinced that he was angry over the student not being ejected and says she has a report from the RBC Center, as well as from game security, that will back up the claim that Gugliotta and Corchiani did nothing more than question calls.

NC State officials are convinced that Hess wouldn’t have thrown out a famous North Carolina or Duke alum. Of course we will never know that to be true and that only plays into the inferiority complex that the Pack often get painted with in the Triangle, inside the shadow of its two rivals.

Nevertheless, Yow wants to have a face-to-face meeting with ACC coordinator of officials John Clougherty in the conference office in Greensboro. Yow wants an answer and is hoping she can get one in person.

She’s not the only one.

“The more it’s discussed, the more it bothers me,” Corchiani said. “If you get pulled over by the police, the officer will tell you the reason. We got thrown out of game, at least tell us why? We did absolutely nothing. We were on Hess and the other officials for six or seven calls, no different than what I’ve done the last 20 years in going to games as a fan.”

 

 

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46 Responses to Hess “naturally has thick skin” (his words)

  1. Rick 02/20/2012 at 4:42 PM #

    “Start acting like winners, and the winning will follow. That goes for fans and teams alike.”

    Can you explain how fans “acting like winners” will help NCSU win?

  2. Rick 02/20/2012 at 4:42 PM #

    “It’s about the blatant disrespect that the ACC shows any team not wearing blue, and NC State in particular. It’s also about the complete lack of professionalism in the front office and the referee cabal.”

    I am not sure why it is hard for some NCSU fans to get this.

  3. Howler 02/20/2012 at 4:45 PM #

    This just in: Lee Fowler has issued a statement apologizing for the behavior of two alleged former players for “State College” on behalf of all the true fans of the college. Fowler further stated his embarrassment to have ever been associated with such a backwards-thinking institution, saying that this is the biggest stain on NC State since the publication of Personal Fouls by the award winning Peter Golenbock. He stated his sincere hope that all State fans would be on their best behavior when the Mighty Tarheels grace the RBC Center with their presence on Tuesday evening and that the fans, in the interest of true sportsmanship, would stand in unison and cheer the Tarheel players , Tarheel coaching staff, and the hard-working trio of ACC officials after the pre-ordained Wolfpack defeat.

    THANK GOD FOR DEBBIE YOW

  4. BJD95 02/20/2012 at 4:45 PM #

    Also…there’s not a lot to say about the on-court matchup. They play fast like we do…but they’re more experienced and much more athletic. They depend on rebounding like we do…but they’re taller and stronger. How do we attack that successfully? They also beat us like a rented mule when our minds were in a positive place.

    Our players are shell shocked right now. And it may be easy to say they have to move on from having their guts mashed…but if you’ve ever been in the field of battle (or if not, and you have any sense of empathy), that’s much easier said than done.

    There are maybe 5-10 teams that can beat the Holes without the Holes beating themselves. NC State is not one of them. And Ol’ Roy’s special hatred for us makes them beating themselves highly unlikely.

  5. Baylisascaris 02/20/2012 at 4:54 PM #

    Can you imagine having that jackass as your shrink?

  6. BJD95 02/20/2012 at 4:56 PM #

    I’m sure there has been a measureable increase in VA’s divorce rate as a result of his practice.

  7. Spooler89 02/20/2012 at 5:03 PM #

    It is not a good thing to know an Official’s name. If you know who he is, he must have made a bunch of bad calls for you to have remembered who he is. Kinda of like knowing who the compliance officer is for a Football Team. If their name is in the paper, it can not be a good situation, a la UNC-Cheat.

  8. Wufpacker 02/20/2012 at 5:13 PM #

    ^ Ya gotta admit that Carolina was doing a pretty good job there for awhile. I mean, even their own players didn’t know who the compliance officer was.

  9. wolfbuff 02/20/2012 at 5:17 PM #

    All, my point about acting like winners is – as part of the 6th man – we can influence the team’s attitude during the game and afterward. Do you not think the team reads, or at least hears about – all the excuse making on this site? And the news media picking up on that?

    Guys, I’m with you. Yes, we have our share – maybe more than our fair share – of bad calls. But we have lost because FOR THE MOST PART our team is not as good as the teams we have lost to. Yes, in general, I believe ACC officiating has fallen behind other conferences, and is coincidental with the demise of ACC basketball. And, yes, Karl Hess is a jackass who should be removed from the profession. And, yes, we deserve strong support from our conference officials. But we – WE – control our ability to win. If WE (fans, alums, administration, donors, etc.) collectively get behind our teams and make a commitment to winning, we will win – despite all the above. All the talk about conspiracies to keep us down and moving to the SEC is not going to turn us into a winning athletic program

  10. packfan60 02/20/2012 at 5:45 PM #

    Could it be that Jay Bilas’ own insecurities were exposed with his comments on Gugliotta and Corchianni? Maybe he is jealous of their hair, Italian good looks, post college successes, etc. He shouldn’t criticize anybody’s fans (especially being a Duke alumni) and while being paid to hide behind a media table and saying whatever he wants.

  11. TopTenPack 02/20/2012 at 6:10 PM #

    Well put wolfbuff…

  12. GAWolf 02/20/2012 at 6:11 PM #

    If anyone has a tape of the game, please watch Hess after the ejection and see if his demeanor changed with respect to calls he made. And for you thickheaded sort, that’s not to say it had an impact on the outcome of the game. I’ve just been told he was a bit more animated thereafter.

  13. GAWolf 02/20/2012 at 6:15 PM #

    Wolf bluff…that’s the same logic and talk we heard in support of herb “because he was our coach” and we should be quiet and support him. I think it’s pretty clear, despite the Sid experiment in the middle, that we’re much better off today than ASU is with Herb.

  14. swamppack 02/20/2012 at 6:19 PM #

    I have always liked Duke because they beat Carolina on a regular basis. I think a lot of their players have shown good sportsmanship also. Jay Ball-less is another story though. Dude just acts kinda’ stupid most of the time.

    He has been elevated to an “insider” status in college basket-ball, but lacks any insight at all. I think it is good advice to just disregard anything he says.

  15. NCSU88 02/20/2012 at 6:35 PM #

    It would be interesting to wire up each ref and record the entire game as they hear and speak it. Put microphones and cameras in their locker room to see and hear what they discuss at half time.

  16. RabidWolf 02/20/2012 at 7:25 PM #

    Just throwing this out there. Nobody in any high ranking official capacity in this league should have any connections (like a diploma) with any of the member institutions within the league. When the man in charge of EVERYTHING in the ACC is an alum of UNX…..how can anybody not anticipate some kind of favoritism or bias all the way down the ladder? Get rid of Swofford and select someone from, IDK, freaking ALASKA to run the ACC!

    Show up to the game tomorrow night foaming at the mouth and looking for BLOOD!

  17. graywolf 02/20/2012 at 7:27 PM #

    THIS!!!
    BJD95 Says:
    February 20th, 2012 at 4:38 pm
    We lost to FSU because (a) the matchup sucked; and (b) our hearts had been ripped out by Thursday’s theft. Hell, we all joked that we would almost certainly get more than our fair share of calls (because that’s how the ACC rolls), and in the first half…we did.

    Featherston’s right – inconsistency within a game is baffling to coaches and players. It’s also the surest way to change a game, and frequently the outcome thereof. It happened on Thursday. If you want to put blinders on and call it “loser talk” that’s your prerogative. But my eyes are open and will stay that way.

    But it’s not about having a game stolen, or two prominent alums embarrassingly ejected from a game that was clearly over (and had never been truly in doubt). It’s about the blatant disrespect that the ACC shows any team not wearing blue, and NC State in particular. It’s also about the complete lack of professionalism in the front office and the referee cabal.

  18. Texpack 02/20/2012 at 7:38 PM #

    ^I’m still struggling to understand why a ref has the power to compel an agent of the State to forcibly remove someone from some public location? Did anyone point out some rule written somewhere that this is codified?

    From the time I first played Jr. High basketball the referees had broad authority over and control of the arena, fans, players, coaches, etc. They are almost like a ship’s captain beginning 30 minutes before tip-off. Their rule is basically law. I have absolutely no problem with that. Hess did not overstep his AUTHORITY on Saturday but he was completely unjustified in what he did by all accounts and he should pay a price for it. How can the ACC ever assign him to do another NC State game in the wake of this fiasco if he doesn’t sit at least 4-5 games?

  19. virginiawolf 02/20/2012 at 8:15 PM #

    Texpack, I can understand your point … but at this moment, I would welcome Deputy Führer Hess to officiate a game at RBC … soon … so he could “feel the love.”

  20. john of sparta 02/20/2012 at 10:39 PM #

    +1 coach13.
    we have dug
    our own hole.

  21. howlie 02/21/2012 at 4:08 PM #

    “Shadow722 Says:
    February 20th, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    “It is clear to me that after the majority of NC State blogs rightfully criticized the horrendous officiating after the Duke game, that a message would be sent to us, in some form or another.

    Hess delivered that message for the zebra clan….”

    Wow.^
    Nail. Head.

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