LRM’s Initial Reaction to Mark Gottfried

By the time Mark Gottfried was hired, I was indifferent, borderline lethargic.

I was working in Puerto Rico that week, with no 3G and very limited Wi-Fi, and I’d already begun my self-imposed month-long hiatus – like I do every spring – away from all things N.C. State, which is entirely necessary to preserve my sanity. Every April I wonder how that kid from the foothills ended up a lifelong State fan and the only answer that ever seems to make sense is indeed quite simple: it wasn’t a choice, it’s inherent. So every May I find my way back.

I’ll forever remember my response on that Tuesday afternoon in April, when I got my buddy’s text that we’d hired Gottfried, which mercifully ended another grueling coaching search that it’s unfair to call mishandled, but entirely fair to call disappointing: “Don’t even joke about that, can you imagine how screwed we are if that’s true?”

Perhaps that reaction was irrational, based on Gottfried’s lineage and marginal success at both Murray State and then Alabama. But it was an honest reaction nonetheless. Look, it’s nothing against Gottfried, necessarily. I’d read The Letter the night before, so I’d made peace with the fact this coaching search wouldn’t end any better than the previous one. Regardless of what I hoped, I knew all along it wouldn’t be Billy Donovan; and as soon as Arizona beat Duke, I knew it wouldn’t be Sean Miller. I understood that we’d blown our shot at Rick Barnes last time around.

But as a long-suffering State fan, I was finally forced to accept that, in fact, all those folks were right: our job wasn’t the destination job we all so vehemently believed. The great N.C. State tradition of the older generations – the one largely responsible for building the ACC into something beyond a regional phenomenon – had been effectively and systemically annihilated by two decades of corrupt, opportunistic cronyism by our incompetent – and far too often, impotent – administration.

So while I’ll admit I didn’t necessarily find the hire inspiring, being a pragmatist I can at least appreciate its necessity, and I decided immediately to give him a fair chance, just like I did his predecessors. I wasn’t impressed by his coach-speak at the introductory press conference, because every coach “says all the right things” when he’s hired. Saying the right things doesn’t make him a winner. But he does seem to have an appreciation for the task at hand as well as the often unrealistic expectations us State fans tend to have. And so far, he’s assembled a fine staff and he’s apparently made quite the immediate impact on the recruiting trail.

It’s far too early for me to formulate any kind of definitive opinion about Mark Gottfried. But for me, his real value before he’s coached even a single game has proven to be intangible. He’s obviously both well-liked and -respected by his former ESPN colleagues, and just a few months into his tenure he’s already generated an improved perception of this wannabe program that can never expect to compete with Carolina and Duke.

If nothing else, I’ve somehow found myself excited about the possibility of Gottfried returning us to prominence, and I’m making a concerted effort to have a positive outlook on what he offers. Obviously, I wish him nothing but wild, unrivaled success. He may never win a game at State, but if having him on the sidelines keeps Mike Patrick and Andy Katz from constantly running their yaps about their favorite coach out in the desert, then I’ll forever remember Gottfried as one of State’s great coaches.

As for results, I don’t ask for much. Just beat Carolina and Duke regulalry and win the ACC Tournament. I don’t think that’s unreasonable at all.

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65 Responses to LRM’s Initial Reaction to Mark Gottfried

  1. ncsu1987 10/20/2011 at 8:04 AM #

    Nicely said, LRM. I’m guessing that at 47 years old, I’m part of the older crowd. Quite a few readers who are older, some significantly so, a bunch who are younger. I was 10 in 1974, and a freshman in 1983. Lived and breathed Wolfpack basketball during my college years, right through grad school until I left in 1990. I watched the NC State tradition in the 70’s from my parents’ house, and participated in it (indirectly) from Raleigh during the 80’s. I never had the privilege of competing (as some on this blog did) but I was the epitome of the die hard fan.

    So now I want to step up, as LRM has, and admit something. Our recent coaching search forced me to face the fact that our program is not what I remember from so long ago. Oh I don’t mean the W’s and L’s – that’s patently obvious to anybody. I mean what LRM stated so eloquently – the degree to which our program, and its reputation, had been so thoroughly annihilated by the increasingly inept administrations. Writers often spend hours, days even, wrestling with themselves to come up with the perfect word to sum up their feelings. I don’t know if LRM struggled with this, but he picked the perfect verb: annihilate.

    I also have to admit my first reaction on hearing the announcement was “Who?” immediately followed by “Oh, man, are we f….ed.” I’ve been extremely and pleasantly surprised by the interim, leaving me very cautiously optimistic. But the cold, unpleasant memory of the search and its immediate aftermath still sits uneasily within me.

    Thanks, LRM, for your expression of something that’s very difficult for this old fart to deal with. Again, very nicely done. Sorry for the length of this comment (for those who are still reading), but it seemed important to let you know that I appreciate what went into this post.

  2. Ed89 10/20/2011 at 8:24 AM #

    One thing that cannot be overstated. Gottfried’s approach to building a staff and redefining the “culture” around the program. The quality of a coach like Lutz as your top assistant is huge. The effort on the recruiting trail has been huge. I think we’ll see a big difference. Are we going to only lose 4 games?..NO, but I think we’ll be competitive in every game. I hope to never see another Wisconsin (or Michigan State from a few years ago) debacle on national TV. I think we are going to see a resurgence of State BBall. If so, we need to realize that we are going to have to ante up to play with the big boys. That means keep the incentives high for our coaching staff. Remember when Jimmy V was being courted by UCLA, and stayed at State? That’s what I’m talking about…

  3. LRM 10/20/2011 at 9:03 AM #

    For the record, very few of my posts actually go anywhere. Mine is just a small part of the shared N.C. State Experience, and the comments usually compliment the story (like ncsu1987 above).

    Except now I can’t stop laughing at a 12-yr old fully-bearded GA in a band uniform.

  4. Prowling Woofie 10/20/2011 at 9:26 AM #

    We were all kidding ourselves, thinking we were going to land a top-flight, HOF coach to step into our program and resurrect it to the level of Past Glory. 20 years of decay and destruction (and self-annihilation) will keep those guys out of harm’s way.

    What we Gott (sorry…) was a coach eager for an opportunity to re-polish his image, while restoring ours. He’s put together a hard-working, knowledgeable, and respected staff that has hit the ground running. They aren’t afraid of The Blues, and have put NC State in front of the premier high school basketball players in the region.

    I’d love to see this team make the NCAA’s. I think they can. BUT, what I want to see MOST is a group that plays together, has a game plan and executes it, plays tenacious, in-your-face defense for 40 minutes, and goes after the ball on the glass and on the court like it was the Holy Grail. W’s will come if these goals are met. But W’s alone are not my most pressing criterium for this season.

    Play like you want it. Play like you’re getting a free education at a tremendous institution. Play like you appreciate the fact that thousands of people are shelling out hundreds of precious dollars in a tough economic time to come and see you represent their school, their colors, their tradition, and their distant memories of NC State ruling the conference and the country.

  5. Wulfpack 10/20/2011 at 9:32 AM #

    I agree with others that the coaching search served as a reality check that we must come to grips with. It was a slap in the face, for sure. However, the more I learn about Gott, the more I’m thankful he fell into our lap. Don’t get me wrong, there are many others I would have preferred over him. But now that he is our guy, he’s very capable and I will surely support him. And I do think we need to give him his time, just as we did Herb and Lowe. Who in the hell else are we going to get? Hopefully Gott and company can bring a sense of respectability back to this dormant program.

  6. Rick 10/20/2011 at 9:38 AM #

    “Except now I can’t stop laughing at a 12-yr old fully-bearded GA in a band uniform.”

    One time at band camp…

  7. lawful 10/20/2011 at 10:31 AM #

    ding, ding, ding…we have a winner: Prowlie Woofie. I wish we could all accept a little more reality and optimism. I, for one, should follow that advice.

  8. GAWolf 10/20/2011 at 11:07 AM #

    prowling wolf offers wisdom for all.

  9. packplantpath 10/20/2011 at 11:44 AM #

    “For the record, very few of my posts actually go anywhere.”

    In that case, maybe I really should start writing for you guys. 🙂

    The pay is great, right?

  10. GAWolf 10/20/2011 at 12:50 PM #

    If you can pay your bills with complaints and whines, yes.

  11. Gene 10/20/2011 at 2:00 PM #

    NCSU has talent on its team. Every NCSU squad, but the early 1990’s Robinson teams and Sendek’s first couple of squads, has had enough talent to do better than they did.

    The teams have always had some basic problems with fundamentals, whether it was defense, rebounding, shooting or everything combined.

    If Gottfried can get us to at least play fundamentally sound basketball, we should be competitive with most teams in college basketball from day one.

    A lot depends on depth and health at the PG position. Brown has to stay healthy and hopefully Johnson can transition to this level of competition.

    I think Gottried’s hiring is about as good as you can get.

    Other than UNC-Ch poaching Roy from Kansas, very few schools are able to get successful coaches, who are currently coaching somewhere and do not have problems at their current school.

    Also, very few “hired gun” type coaches are young enough to stick with a program for more than a few years. By the time you have the proven track record of success, like Bob Huggins, Rick Barnes, etc. you are most likely on the last legs of your coaching career, before heading off into retirement.

    Gottfried seems like a good coach, who has had success and has something to prove. He hired a top notch, A+ coaching staff. I can’t believe we landed Bobby Lutz as an assistant. He was a successful head coach, who should be off our bench in the near future, but it’s great to have him right now.

    As long has Gottfried can get our team to box out for rebounds, take good shots, not turn the ball over, play solid defense and other fundamental things that have been lacking at some point or another over the last 20 years, I think this year could be a pleasant surprise.

  12. ryebread 10/20/2011 at 2:20 PM #

    Here’s what I want to see, and where I think we stand:
    1) A well conditioned team show up day one — early indicators are good
    2) A team on the same page — TBD, everyone is on the same page until they get punched in the mouth
    3) A defense first team that can put pressure on the ball — Gott’s teams do not have this track record based on my memory
    4) A team with a high level of effort in every game — TBD
    5) A team that can break based off of turnovers and long rebounds — TBD, but I remember Gott’s teams getting out on the break some. Anything will be a step up from our last two coaches.
    6) A team that runs a proven college offense — too many UCLA high post references to think we WON’T do this
    7) Players graduating and having positive college experiences — TBD (what we were best at with SL)
    8) Constant uptick in the talent — TBD, but early indicators are strong
    9) Noses clean with the NCAA

    That’s the thing that gets missed by so many people. Every team wants to win 25 games and get far in the NCAA tournament. In our instant gratification, “just win baby” culture, the results are what we focus on. The results are merely the indicators of whether the other things exist and were done. If we do those 9 things, then we’ll be very happy with the results.

    As for my expectation on the results at the end of the year, I think our stretch goal is the NCAA tournament. We have talent and a good staff, but there’s a lot of learning and a lot of change in order to make our stretch goal. It’s much easier to reach a stretch goal without this much change.

    I think we’re likely a bubble team needing some breaks and probably NIT bound. Anything less will mean we didn’t do the 9 things and that would be greatly disappointing. I also think we’ll be far more dangerous late in the year than we are early.

  13. TheCOWDOG 10/20/2011 at 3:43 PM #

    Ya know. In reality, this club isn’t that far from the tourney field.

    Take it in groups of 3 , per game.

    3 more defensive rebounds

    3 fewer turnovers

    3 higher FG %

    3 higher FT %

    3 meaningful time outs with 3 coaches working and none of them are hanging out near the top of the key.

    That ain’t much.

  14. patientwuf 10/20/2011 at 6:12 PM #

    Awesome reflection LRM. Job well done. I would have a given you an A+ for this.

    “3 coaches working and none of them are hanging out near the top of the key.”

    They did dress the part.

  15. choppack1 10/20/2011 at 9:07 PM #

    cowdog – I’m with you. Hell, Lowe could take this squad to the NIT.

    We 4 legitimate ACC starters in Brown, Wood, Leslie and Howell. CJ Williams ain’t that much of a stretch. We’ll have good frontcourt depth too.

    I think the tourney is well-within reach if we don’t get decimated by injuries.

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