Mike Patrick, what more can we say?(a lot actually, updated with commentary by Daily Update)

There is a reason this guy doesn’t do anything in his life other than yap on the television.

With a mindset like this, why do people even bother playing the games?

At some point, you really have to wonder if the ACC will approach its broadcast partner(ESPN?) that Patrick works for to get him off of ACC broadcasts completely. Why would the ACC want a guy doing conference games when he does nothing but promote Duke and UNC while denigrating the rest of the league through mis-truths, outright lies, and idiotic statements? Here he was last night doing a game that didn’t even involve an ACC team, yet he is out there promoting this idea that just because UNC and Duke are in the ACC that no coach should want to work in that conference. What great publicity for Georgia Tech and NC State to a national audience last night as both schools attempt to make a crucial hire!

Is that the type of publicity the ACC is looking for as a conference? Should the league office allow this guy to continually promote that no program besides Duke or UNC is worth a shit in this conference?

Who needs enemies when you have “partners” doing your games like Patrick, “partners”(ESPN and Raycom) allowing Patrick(Gman, Elmore, etc…) to dump on 10 of 12 teams in the conference, and an ACC commissioner who does absolutely nothing to correct the behaviors of these “partners” contracted to promote the conference as a whole?

Unbelievable.

Patrick makes this statement as if other major conferences don’t have dominant teams. While the Pac-10 is currently down, for decades+ Arizona and UCLA have dominated that conference as much as Duke and UNC have the ACC. Since Billy Donovan arrived at Florida, the Gators and the Kentucky Wildcats have dominated the SEC. In the Big East, you have 3 hall of fame coaches at Syracuse, UConn, and Louisville and a #1 seed this year in Pitt. In the Big 12, there are dominant programs like Kansas and Texas. Does Patrick even know anything about the Big 10 which has two of the top programs in the country in Ohio St. and Michigan St(not to mention Wisconsin, Purdue, Indiana, etc..)?

Honestly, is there any conference a coach can target that doesn’t have at least two of the premiere programs of all-time followed by a bunch of other solid programs that shouldn’t be avoided with Patrick’s logic? Why would any coach want to coach anywhere?

Another point that Patrick misses and Mike Decourcy missed yesterday as well on the Dave Glenn show is that college basketball isn’t a regular season sport. It will obviously be difficult for any coach to win regular season titles in the ACC, Big 10, Big 12, Big East, etc… It is tough to do. If this was college football, then that would matter as generally you have to win your conference to have a shot at the national title and/or make BCS bowl game.

But in college basketball, there are 68 teams that make the NCAA tournament and whether you finish 1st or 3rd-6th in your conference you have have a shot to make a deep run in March. You can make that deep run at NC State or Georgia Tech or Maryland just as easily as any other non-top 2 program(UNC/Duke, Kansas/Texas, Mich St./Ohio St, UConn/Pitt, UF/UK, Arizona/UCLA) from every other conference. Even WF and UVA are high quality jobs and with the right coach you have every chance to win at a high level nationally. In the ACC right now, traditional football programs like BC, VT, FSU, and Clemson finished immediately behind Duke and UNC. That statement alone tells you how wide open the ACC is at this moment and that is without considering eventual retirements of the league’s top 3 coaches: Roy, K, and Gary.

When is Swofford going to step up, defend the other 10 basketball programs in his conference, and get Mike Patrick off of ACC basketball games?

Probably never, unfortunately for 10 schools in the ACC.

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48 Responses to Mike Patrick, what more can we say?(a lot actually, updated with commentary by Daily Update)

  1. PackInsider 03/17/2011 at 1:02 PM #

    Another part of the problem with all of these talking heads is that we have too gotdamn many. CBS rolls out a new dude added to every broadcast who has an opinion and loves to hear himself talk. Just give me two guys calling the game and a guy from the studio, play the damn game and STFU about everything else!!!!

  2. VaWolf82 03/17/2011 at 1:02 PM #

    Part of the problem is that the league and league officials so blatantly protect Duke and Carolina during the regular season so that they can man-handle the other league members

    What are you talking about?

  3. wolf_at_my_door 03/17/2011 at 1:09 PM #

    Patrick is a worn out give up artist. That is as much time as I’ll waste on him.

  4. Texpack 03/17/2011 at 1:14 PM #

    I think the Duke/Carolina thing is spewed because these guys are lazy. This does hurt recruiting for all of the other ACC schools. Kids grow up thinking everybody else in the league is garbage. It is to a certain extent a self fulfilling prophecy.

    The lopsided officiating can explain why teams don’t beat the blues in conference to a certain extent. It does not explain the general lack of quality OOC wins from the rest of the ACC. If you’re really good the Duke/UNC-CH officiating bias doesn’t hurt you when you play Arizona or Syracuse. Schools that want to move up within the ACC pecking order need to schedule more aggressively outside the league. This is the only way they will be able to generate a decent RPI and attract some national buzz. You can’t play a MEAC/CAA/Patriot league OOC schedule and count on getting 12 games against the Top 50 in the ACC anymore.

  5. newt 03/17/2011 at 1:18 PM #

    “I Hope You Sit” by Mikey P.

    I hope you never ever lose your sense of caution
    You get a little to eat
    And are no longer hongry
    May you never take one single charge, feet planted
    God forbid your love for V be understanded
    I hope you still feel small
    When you stand beside Jim Henson
    Whenever one door closes, I doubt God opens another
    Promise me you’ll give up fighting for a chance

    And when you get the choice to sit it out or dance
    I hope you sit
    Don’t try to dance

    I hope you learn to fear those programs in the distance
    Just settle for the path of least resistance
    Living doesn’t mean taking chances
    that aren’t worth taking
    Pride in your school is a mistake
    That’s not worth making
    Don’t let some hell bent dream
    Lead you to Twitter
    When you come close to having a dream
    Reconsider
    Give safe mediocrity
    More than just a passing glance

    And when you get the choice to sit it out or dance
    I hope you sit
    Don’t ever dance

    I hope you still feel small
    When you stand beside the Plumlees
    They make it unwise to want to coach in the ACC
    Promise me you’ll give up fighting for a chance

    And when you get the choice to sit it out or dance
    Sit
    Don’t try to dance
    Don’t try to dance
    Don’t try to dance

  6. NCSU84 03/17/2011 at 1:41 PM #

    I know people are upset at Patrick’s comments, but there is only one way to end this discussion and shut him (and others) up once and for all. To quote Al Davis, “Just Win Baby Win”.

  7. wufpup76 03/17/2011 at 1:47 PM #

    Very nice, newt.

  8. MrPlywood 03/17/2011 at 2:08 PM #

    Hang on… Herb had very little success against the blues, yet Patrick thinks he was a great coach. What gives Mike?

  9. camel77 03/17/2011 at 3:19 PM #

    packhammer Says:
    March 17th, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    Uh, Jimmy V, upon taking the call from NC State, did not say “gee I think I might be interested but I sure am worried about Dean and K”. He said, yes I’ll take the job and I can’t wait to kick everyone’s butt in the conference and win a national championship. Right on to Ms. Yow. No excuses, no regrets, no fear.

    Jimmy V didn’t have to worry about Coach K, they were hired the same year and I think V was hired first and Coach K hadn’t established his reputation yet. The only really established Coach was Dean Smith. Lefty had been at Maryland around 10 years.

  10. Wolf1975 03/17/2011 at 3:33 PM #

    Mike Patrick is a tool and any wolfpack fan, or any other fans not wearing blue should punch him in the face

  11. Texpack 03/17/2011 at 3:34 PM #

    Terry Holland was fairly well established and had Ralph Sampson, Jeff Lamp and Lee Raker on his roster. V was also inheriting a team that had just been a #4 seed in the NCAAT. V also went 11-7 against K iirc.

  12. RickJ 03/17/2011 at 3:58 PM #

    “When is Swofford going to step up, defend the other 10 basketball programs in his conference, and get Mike Patrick off of ACC basketball games?”

    Probably never but it is getting so bad he may have to. Swofford could fix this with one conference call.

  13. eas 03/17/2011 at 4:20 PM #

    Excellent point wolf1975.

  14. Ed89 03/17/2011 at 4:22 PM #

    I saw the same thing last night. Had to rewind and let my wife hear his crap. I couldn’t believe it, but wanted to reach through the TV and choke the little %$^&*! Unbelievable.

  15. ZZ 03/17/2011 at 5:25 PM #

    So can we get David Glen or someone else with some clout to write Swofford and get this issue some attention?!?!?!?!

  16. ZZ 03/17/2011 at 5:32 PM #

    Nothing changes unless someone does something other than bitch about it. Who with a name that Swofford would recognize, that is impartial, will do this? I’d do it myself but it would come off biased and angry and probably including some empty promises of death threats or something else that wouldn’t help the situation.

  17. CannonballJunior 03/17/2011 at 5:35 PM #

    “Terry Holland was fairly well established and had Ralph Sampson, Jeff Lamp and Lee Raker on his roster.”

    But when V came to Raleigh Holland still hadn’t done that much yet – his claim to fame was winning the ’76 ACC Tourney (big upset) and winning the 1980 NIT during Ralph’s frosh year….Holland had his greatest teams the next 4 seasons. UVa was seen as on the rise of course.

    As V was hired in 1980 the 2 established heavyweights then in the league were seen Smith at UNC-CHeat$ and Driesell at UMd.

  18. ClassOf91 03/17/2011 at 10:28 PM #

    When you have guys like Gus Johnson and Jim Nance announcing NCAA games, why does a guy like Mike Patrick even try compete?

  19. Wufpacker 03/18/2011 at 2:08 AM #

    ^ Because someone will pay him. He couldn’t care less if he sounds like an imbecile. The cash still spends just fine.

    The question is why would anyone be willing to pay him to sound like an imbecile? Obviously someone somewhere doesn’t mind what he’s saying. I wonder who that might be?

    As far as when will Swofford step up and defend/promote the other ten schools in the conference, why on Earth would he want to do that? Only an unbiased person who wanted success for all teams (and thus the league as a whole) would wish to do this. Only an insightful person (even minimally) would see how this would be a good thing. Only a capable and motivated person would bother to make the effort.

    Since he’s none of those things as far as I can tell, I wouldn’t hold my breath.

  20. PackerInRussia 03/18/2011 at 4:07 AM #

    “Hang on… Herb had very little success against the blues, yet Patrick thinks he was a great coach. What gives Mike?”

    One of the reasons Herb was a good coach (in a “body of work” way) was because he knew his role. The fact that he got a few wins against them makes him even more impressive and the fact that some fans weren’t satisfied with that makes us even more unappreciative.
    That’s not my opinion, BTW. Just showing how he can reconcile those two bits of information.

  21. rtpack24 03/18/2011 at 9:26 AM #

    Mike Patrick is a chain smoker. When he has a break in a broadcast he runs to the nearest outside door to smoke. It seems after all these years of heavy smoking it has taken its toll on his mental state.

  22. Pano Fasoulas 03/18/2011 at 7:57 PM #

    I think Dickie V actually did a decent job of putting him in his place. He said exactly what Debbie Yow said about coming here. But, Patrick is a complete tool. It would have been better if Vitale had been a little ruder to him. But, I felt vindicated by Vitale.

  23. robertinraleigh 03/20/2011 at 10:48 PM #

    I don’t think Swofford will be making any calls. FYI – he was the UNC AD for 17 years and played football for the Tarholes.

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