File this away for the future

Not going to open this can of worms today…but, definitely wanted to highlight something from this article that is related to a HUGE undiscussed issue within the NC State Athletics Department.

I’m just going to throw this quote out there so I have it filed for a future entry and to generate any discussion that takes off on the topic from the community.

“This is a medical decision,” O’Brien said. “I have nothing to do with this. Once the doctors tell us he’s cleared to go, if we’re still playing football, he will play.”

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42 Responses to File this away for the future

  1. Classof89 07/24/2009 at 9:16 AM #

    Huh? OK, so I guess we’re playing Blog Charades today…

    Is the “huge issue” the relationship between the football coaches and the doctors? The Department’s ineptitude in seeking medical redshirts? TOB’s philosophy toward major injuries?

    Why so cryptic?

  2. BJD95 07/24/2009 at 9:27 AM #

    Coach O’Brien’s frustration is evident every time he discusses an injury. I’m sure Jeff will connect more dots when he can.

  3. Dr. BadgerPack 07/24/2009 at 9:31 AM #

    My understanding is unless he can’t set foot in class, a medical redshirt is out of the question.

  4. Classof89 07/24/2009 at 9:31 AM #

    Is he frustrated that we seem to be snakebit the last three years, or is it a frustration about our Sports Medicine or player conditioning (and doesn’t HE control both of those things? Or is Sports Medicine a separate outfit that serves all the teams?)

  5. YANCSSB 07/24/2009 at 9:33 AM #

    I think you’re making a mountain out of a molehill in this situation.

    SFN: With all due respect
    (1) I haven’t made a single comment about this situation, so it is impossible to make a mountain out of a molehill
    (2) I haven’t even defined “this situation”, so it is impossible to make anything of it.

    This has nothing to do with Nate Irving’s situation, BTW.

  6. sautz 07/24/2009 at 9:37 AM #

    I could be wrong on this, but a few years ago didn’t some BC player accuse O’Brien of ruining his future or something by forcing him back too soon from injury?
    Nevermind, I used the Googles and here is what I was thinking of: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=grant/070427&sportCat=ncf
    Not sure if it’s related to what this post is aiming at.

    SFN: Nope. Nothing to do with TOB.

  7. BJD95 07/24/2009 at 9:44 AM #

    Nothing we say on this topic should be read as a criticism of Coach O’Brien. He just wants us to join the 21st century.

  8. TheAliasTroll 07/24/2009 at 10:02 AM #

    It seems pretty simple to me. He’ll play THIS year if he’s cleared to play by his doctors at ANY point during THIS season. Nothing more, nothing less.

  9. Girlfriend in a Coma 07/24/2009 at 10:05 AM #

    I like this site and the people who run it, but honestly the “20 questions” games are very tiresome. If you know stuff you want to share, then go ahead. The “insiders giving vague hints” pieces are not positive for anyone IMO.

  10. 61Packer 07/24/2009 at 10:14 AM #

    Not to change the subject, but is anyone going to open a thread on the article in this morning’s paper about the NCSU band being denied, by NCSU administrators, their planned trip to Ireland (that they were paying for themselves)?

  11. StateFans 07/24/2009 at 10:17 AM #

    Sorry that I’ve got this frustrating set of events like my job, my family, my community responsibilities and numerous other things that occupy my time that precludes me from writing a larger entry on the topic today.

    But, why wouldn’t I want to throw something out there to create a ‘bookmark’ and also to see if any of readers have any EDUCATED insight/thoughts into sports medicine at NC State?

    Who knows what we all may be able to learn from the community? You never know until you ask.

  12. BJD95 07/24/2009 at 10:22 AM #

    The Ireland thing is another good reason to raise the middle finger to Oblinger and everybody else who has enabled a culture of mediocrity and cronyism at NC State. It hurts us all, and devalues our diplomas.

    I had thought about posting a fuller rant or the case against Boston College or Wake Forest. We’ll see what the day brings.

  13. StateFans 07/24/2009 at 10:22 AM #

    Here is an idea for everyone — if you don’t want to discuss the general topic of sports medicine at NC State, then don’t spend any time posting or reading this entry. It’s not a big deal. No reason for so much angst.

    We’ve got a ton of topics on the front page and linked in different sections on the blog. Please make sure that you haven’t missed any other topics that are of interest to you and drive some of those great conversations.

    Really…it’s not a big deal. We’ll get to this broader topic in the future and it will be familiar to you because of this.

    Additionally, we are ALWAYS hoping that some of our readers who are so interested in the content of the blog would be interested in donating some time and entries to the site. If you have thoughts on how to make us better and time to write some of your own stuff, please drop us an email and let’s get connected on how to help make the site more dynamic.

    Much appreciated!

  14. packbackr04 07/24/2009 at 10:29 AM #

    i think O’brien is asking for a medical redshirt. the State doctors wont give it unless Irving is so badly injured that he can not go to class. Of course Irving will be able to wheel/or crutch himself into class but will not be able to play football. Thus our athletics dept is screwing itself by costing OUR BEST PLAYER a year of eligibility.

  15. Oldwolf 07/24/2009 at 10:32 AM #

    I love reading your articles, but you wrote in this article:

    is related to a HUGE undiscussed issue within the NC State Athletics “Department.”

    But in the comments you say:

    “Really…it’s not a big deal. We’ll get to this broader topic in the future”

    When you say that is a HUGE issue, then most of us want to at least know more of what it is about.

    SFN: LOL! You are taking two totally different statements and fusing them together.

    I was saying that ‘it is not a big deal’ in the context of ‘it isn’t a big enough deal that we didn’t run a huge entry right now for people to be all whiny’ like your post.

    NOT that the underlying issue of sports medicine at NC State is not a big deal.

  16. tootallorder 07/24/2009 at 10:32 AM #

    How about an entry on the sheer ineptitude of NCSU’s PR department. Are they all on vacation for the summer? Also, what kind of treatment will McQueen Campbell and Oblinger receive if they attend any football games this fall? Will these outcasts have to don disguises or will they simply stay away?

  17. YANCSSB 07/24/2009 at 10:36 AM #

    “I think you’re making a mountain out of a molehill in this situation.

    “SFN: With all due respect
    (1) I haven’t made a single comment about this situation, so it is impossible to make a mountain out of a molehill
    (2) I haven’t even defined “this situation”, so it is impossible to make anything of it.

    This has nothing to do with Nate Irving’s situation, BTW.”"

    Well then I guess just color me confused like most of the rest of us. Is there something you *want* to say regarding State’s sports medicine department but *can’t?*

  18. GoldenChain 07/24/2009 at 10:37 AM #

    NCSU does not have a medical school therefore we are at the mercy of doctors who could in fact have a vested interest in our best athletes not getting the best treatment or in not returning to play ASAP.
    Schools such as Duke, ECU, UVA, unx, etc have an advantage over us in these situations.

    SNF, am I getting warm?

  19. YANCSSB 07/24/2009 at 10:40 AM #

    GoldenChain, I really, really hope that was sarcasm. Otherwise, the tinfoil hat you’re wearing is starting to get piss-poor reception.

  20. GoldenChain 07/24/2009 at 10:46 AM #

    YANCSSB, I’m only trying to solve the riddle, that’s all.

    …however, if you are telling me that schools that possess acedemic Sports Medicine programs within their Schools of Medicine do not have an advantage over those who don’t,….well, who has poor reception….

  21. spanky 07/24/2009 at 10:56 AM #

    He clearly (as clearly as inflection can be read in black and white words on a screen) seems frustrated…
    Is it a major disconnect between him and the team doctors?
    Is Nate using the team doctor’s and if not is that why there’s a disconnect?
    Is it because our injury luck the last 3 years has been un-****ing-believably terrible?

    I’ll wait and see…

  22. BJD95 07/24/2009 at 11:07 AM #

    I would not read our lack of a School of Medicine to mean that NC State does not have prominent alumni in the medical field, or even in the specific discipline of sports medicine.

  23. CarnifeX 07/24/2009 at 11:11 AM #

    Man, this sounds juicy. I’ll just keep refreshing and wait for more insight. While waiting, I think I’ll click on some of these ads. Exhilarating.

  24. YANCSSB 07/24/2009 at 11:14 AM #

    YANCSSB, I’m only trying to solve the riddle, that’s all.

    …however, if you are telling me that schools that possess acedemic (sic) Sports Medicine programs within their Schools of Medicine do not have an advantage over those who don’t,….well, who has poor reception….

    Sure doesn’t seem to help Carolina keep from racking up tons of “career ending” injuries.

    On the surface I’m inclined to believe that such schools might have a very slight edge insomuch that their star athletes do not have to leave campus to get treatment. But you are implying that State athletes are intentionally getting sub-par treatment because the docs that treat them got their degrees from rival schools. And that is straight-up lunacy.

    As BJ points out, plenty of doctors in the area got their undergrad/premed degrees at State (often in advanced programs like biomedical engineering, for example) or are just plain State fans. Hell, my wife’s OB is a HUGE State fan. My dentist got his undergrad from State and went to UNC’s dental school and is a huge State fan.

    This is the kind of tinfoil hat conspiracy B.S. borne out of the frustration of decades of mediocrity that gets us mocked by other fanbases, and needs to stop.

  25. TENN Packfan 07/24/2009 at 11:57 AM #

    OK, I’ll play connect the dots. The last set of circumstances where I heard chatter of this nature was when RW was injured in the bowl game. I don’t know any specifics, but I do remember people alluding to TOB & RW possibly having a problem with the medical staff ruling RW out of the second half. Am I warm?

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