Cheap Seats Football Retrospective: Part III, Philip Rivers

1999 NC State Football Helmet

LRM's view from Section 30 of Philip's Senior Day entrance into Carter-Finley

This is Part III of a five-part series that is by no means intended to be authoritative. Rather, it’s nothing more than an incomplete, inconclusive, sometimes erroneous, while always biased retrospective of recent State football history. Part of this was based on nothing more than my attempt to answer the question so many of us are left asking year after year: How did we get here?

Part I: The 90s
Part II: Chuck

Part III: 17
2000 HelmetI met Philip once.

True story: I was working part-time at Addam’s Bookstore during the spring 2001 buyback period when one afternoon he came in to sell back his Spanish textbook, Arriba! But the publishing company had issued a new volume, rendering his obsolete, so I had to break the bad news to him that I couldn’t buy it back.

“Aw, shucks,” he cursed with that Alabama drawl. “You serious?” he asked with a look the same as a kid looks at a trusted adult that has let them down.

As he left Addam’s, I’m convinced he carried with him a valuable lesson about life: it’s tough, and sometimes you’ll be stuck with a Spanish textbook that no one wants.

If I had to sum up Philip’s college career in a single sentence, it would be this: He deserved better.

I’ve never heard an even remotely convincing argument as to why Philip Rivers finished seventh in the 2003 Heisman Trophy voting, or how three quarterbacks – Jason White, Eli Manning, and Matt Leinart – finished ahead of him. He wasn’t even invited to New York City for the pomp – more like pompous – and circumstance of the official ceremony.

Yet, in 13 games his senior season of 2003, Philip had the NCAA’s best passer rating (170.5) and completed 72% of his passes for 4,491 yards, 34 touchdowns, with a paltry seven interceptions. His near-perfect performances in two losses that season – at Ohio State and at Florida State – underscores just how difficult a task it was, even for him, to win games with a defense that offered no help.

On September 13, 2003, State went to Columbus to face the reigning national champions at the Horseshoe. Philip completed 36-of-52 passes for 315 yards with four touchdowns and two interceptions (one of which, replays clearly showed, was actually trapped against the turf rather than being an interception). Early gaffes on defense — Michael Jenkins slipped loose for a 44-yard touchdown reception on the opening drive — and special teams — on the ensuing kickoff, Richard Washington stumbled into Tramain Hall, who misplayed the ball off his helmet; Ohio State recovered and scored three plays later — put State in a 14-0 hole before the offense even took the field. With just under eight minutes remaining in the game, State trailed 24-7 — the lone touchdown had been on the final drive of the first half, where Philip was six-for-six after connecting on an 11-yard touchdown pass to Jerricho Cotchery.

With the game locked up, Philip took over and coolly guided the most improbable of his many comebacks that had by then long since become his signature. He connected with Cotchery on a nine-yard touchdown, and then after an A.J. Davis interception and an Adam Kiker field goal, he hit T.J. Williams on a five-yard strike to tie the game at 24 with 0:21 left in regulation. In the first overtime, Philip connected on a 17-yard score to Tramain Hall; but after trading touchdowns in the second overtime, Ohio State scored first in the third overtime, and then A.J. Hawk and Will Allen brought down T.A. just short of the goal line on fourth down to preserve the Buckeyes victory.

Although State returned to Raleigh on the short end of a 44-38 three-overtime loss, Philip left no naysayers regarding his dominance.

Later that season, on November 15, State went to Tallahassee tied for first with an outside shot at the ACC championship and subsequent BCS berth. Philip completed 28-of-38 passes for 422 yards, with four touchdowns and no interceptions, and rushed for another touchdown in a heart-wrenching 50-44 double-overtime loss to the Seminoles. It will always be remembered as a game State quite literally fumbled away — two after the catch, by Brian Clark and T.J. Williams, and one, as always, by T.A. McLendon inside our own 10 right before the half; each led to Florida State scores. In that loss, Philip completed 74% of his passes for a mesmerizing average of 15.1 yards per completion, without a single miscue.

But Philip’s greatest performance stat-wise was his last in red and white. In the 2003 Tangerine Bowl, he completed 37-of-45 passes for a career-high 475 yards, with five touchdowns and, again, no interceptions, in a 56-26 thrashing of Kansas. Arguably, his stats that night were inflated because of the gross mismatch, but the sheer magnitude of his performance that night was an impervious slap in the face to all the writers, pundits and Heisman voters who disqualified him because, unfortunately, he had neither White’s #1 ranking nor Manning’s pedigree.

The latter is actually the best explanation I can offer for Philip’s exclusion from the Heisman conversation (beyond the five losses): he wasn’t the media darling he needed to be to ever have a realistic shot. An example: In 2006 I worked quite often in western Tennessee and a co-worker there was an Ole Miss alum and he was as proud of Eli as we are of Philip, so we developed an ongoing debate as to why our guy was better. I went with him to Oxford in 2006 to see the game against Georgia — every college football fan should tailgate in The Grove at least once — and on the drive down, he began to rant about how Eli should have won the Heisman, which opened up the perfect opportunity for me to needle him into a numbers game about the topic. While he wouldn’t quite concede, it was no small victory to hear him utter the words, “Wow, I had no idea Rivers put up those kind of numbers — that’s amazing.”

Apparently not amazing enough, as Oklahoma’s White won the 2003 Heisman Trophy, and Manning and Leinart finished ahead of Philip in the voting despite each being statistically inferior overall to him. Among the group, Philip was the highest rated passer, had the most completions, yards, yards per attempt, completions per game, fewest interceptions, and the best touchdown-to-interception ratio. But, college football’s most prestigious award is given each year to the “Most Outstanding College Football Player” that plays for one of the nation’s premier teams, not the guy that has to put up monsterous numbers each week to even have any shot at winning. Of the Heisman finalists, White’s Oklahoma lost to BCS National Champion LSU in the Sugar Bowl; Manning led Ole Miss to a 10-3 record and an eventual victory over Oklahoma State in the Cotton Bowl; Chris Perry’s Michigan lost to AP National Champion Southern Cal in the Rose Bowl; meanwhile, Pittsburgh lost four regular-season games, but Larry Fitzgerald was by far the nation’s most prolific receiver, and arguably the most outstanding player among the group.

But I digress.

Statistically, Philip’s status as the ACC’s greatest quarterback is indisputable. He ranks first in total starts (51), passing yards (13,484), total offense (13,582), touchdown passes (95), completions (1,087), touchdowns in a season (34), 300-yard passing games (18), 400-yard passing games (7), total touchdowns (112), and total plays (1,963). He was the ACC’s 2000 Rookie of the Year and then 2003 Player of the Year, and was a four-time bowl MVP (2000 MicronPC, 2003 Gator, 2003 Tangerine, 2004 Senior Bowl; and offensive MVP of the 2001 Tangerine Bowl in a loss to Pittsburgh).

In 2000, Philip had replaced the venerable Jamie Barnette. As time expired in his first game against Arkansas State, he calmly converted two different fourth downs to tie the game, and then manufactured two touchdown drives in overtime to secure the 38-31 victory. The following week, in his first road game, he engineered an even more unlikely comeback at Indiana; he threw touchdown passes of 26 and 47 yards in the final 4:29 to steal a 41-38 victory. Then a few weeks later, on the Thursday night ESPN game against Georgia Tech, State was all but dead in the water at halftime, down 13-0 and utterly listless on offense. But there was Philip, once again, in the second half and then overtime, in his element: he audibled at the line and then hit Koren Robinson on a 23-yard fade for the game-winning touchdown. Nothing was coming easy for the freshman, at least until mid-October in Chapel Hill, where his legacy began in earnest after he led State — for the first time since 1992 — to a 38-20 victory over Carolina (he even opened up the scoring with the game’s first touchdown reception from Bryan Peterson).

After that, there was no stopping him. As a freshman in 2000, he led a young team that had no business playing in the postseason to the MicronPC Bowl where, after a 24-0 halftime deficit, he once again led State to an improbable come-from-behind 38-30 victory over Minnesota to end the season 8-4. In 2001, he became the first ACC quarterback to win in Tallahassee. In 2002, he guided State to its only 11-win season, highlighted by a 28-6 shellacking of Notre Dame in the 2003 Gator Bowl, where he was 23-of-37 for 228 yards, with two touchdowns and no interceptions.

In four seasons, Philip compiled a 34-17 record, surpassed nearly every significant ACC statistical passing category, and he ranks near the top of many NCAA passing categories. Most notably, he left State as the NCAA’s second all-time passer, behind Ty Detmer — although Philip currently ranks fourth after Timmy Chang (in 2004) and then Colt Brennan (in 2007) passed him.

It begs us to wonder: What if Norm Chow – who, as a BYU assistant, had coached Robbie Bosco (1984 National Champion), Steve Young (1983 Davey O’Brien recipient, Super Bowl Champion, NFL Hall of Famer), and Ty Detmer (1990 & 1991 Davey O’Brien winner) – had stayed at State for Philip’s entire career? Would Philip have won two Heisman Trophies and then left for the NFL after the ACC Championship and possible National Championship in 2002?

Or what if Philip hadn’t enrolled early and impressed Amato during the spring, but instead Amato had gone with Toki McCray and redshirted Philip as a freshman in 2000, so that he wouldn’t have been the victim of hapless timing. Instead of that abysmal 2003 defense, as a senior in 2004 he would have had Mario, Manny and McCargo, and all the havoc they wreaked upon opposing quarterbacks’ attempts to get into the end zone, paving the way for his runaway Heisman campaign and ACC Championship (unfortunately we would have settled for beating Auburn in the Sugar Bowl but left out of the National Championship picture).

The ultimate What If: As a senior at Athens High School, Philip threw for 2,025 yards with 15 touchdowns and was named the 1999 Alabama Player of the Year. Nevertheless, neither Alabama nor Auburn was encouraged by his awkward throwing motion, but each was apparently willing to give him some reps at tight end. The sheer, miscreant audacity of the greatest college quarterback of my generation being the most dominant tight end to ever play in the Iron Bowl, had my beloved alma mater not had the foresight to bring him to Raleigh.

But destiny brought Philip to State, where he became the moral epicenter for a fan base — especially my generation — that desperately yearned to be apart of the embodiment of legendary, mythical greatness. Don’t believe me? Try to get a seat at the Ale House during a Chargers game.

My former boss from several years back was a 1974 State grad; sometimes he’d lean back in his chair with his hands clasped behind his head as a coy grin swept across his face, as if he was about to share with me a secret about Norm Sloan and David Thompson that only he knew. The stories were great, but I resented him a little bit for having been apart of something mythical. But after witnessing greatness 51 games over a four year span, now I understand. And I’m sure someday, when I’m watching Philip towards the end of his career, I’ll wax poetic with my buddies about the time that he passed to himself for the game-winning touchdown against Carolina — hey, if David Thompson can make change atop the backboard, Philip can pass to himself.

My baby sister’s best friend since college is somehow kinfolk of Amato. For my sister’s birthday her freshman year in 2003, her friend asked Amato to have Philip autograph a picture of himself – back turned, in the huddle (you can’t even see him, just the 17) – with a personal message to my sister, “From Philip.”

She shrieked, and she cried – a lot, in fact. It was the greatest gift ever, you just don’t understand.

For about a year after that, she took that framed picture with her wherever she went. When she went home for Thanksgiving or Christmas, when she went to the beach, she took it with her. Now that might seem weird to a lot of people.

But not to a State fan.

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45 Responses to Cheap Seats Football Retrospective: Part III, Philip Rivers

  1. TOBtime 07/31/2009 at 1:43 PM #

    Tobaccordshow, I agree with you to a certain extent. All we had to do was run out the clock against MD and back to the Gator Bowl we go. However, a boneheaded OC put the ball in TA’s hands. Now keep in mind, this is just after he he got a first down and did some grandstanding AFTER RUNNING OUT OF BOUNDS.

  2. TOBtime 07/31/2009 at 1:46 PM #

    Whoops, wrong key.

    Anyway, the decision was stupid to put the ball back in his hands but all he had to do was hang on for cryin out loud. The entire season is on the line and he gets cold-cocked and fumbles. No excuses.

    My Chiro in Grensboro was with Atl when TA tried out for the Falcons. He said in all his years of football he had never seen a dumber football player.

  3. OwenDorm83 07/31/2009 at 2:01 PM #

    recall that Phil’s Sr game against the goats, goat’s D actually made us run one THIRD down play in the first half.

    remember when Dexter Reid tried to tackle Phil heading into the end zone of that game? Phil started hoofing it from about the 10 yard line. They met at the 1. Reid landed at the (minus) 6

    LRM Note: Yeah that play was one of Philip’s two rushing TDs that day, and he added another passing. That game was an absolute romp after the first quarter (21-3) but Carolina stormed back and we only led 24-21 at the half; then same thing after the third (44-21) before Carolina made it a lot closer than it ever should’ve been (47-34). Manny also blocked a punt in the end zone.

  4. bradleyb123 07/31/2009 at 3:00 PM #

    Another great read, LRM. This really took me back. I was at the game in Tallahassee where TA fumbled just before halftime. And late in the game after a vicious helmet-to-helmet hit (at least, that’s the way it looked from our nosebleed seats in the corner of the stadium) that I thought should have been called some sort of foul.

    I think part of the reason Philip was so far down in the Heisman voting is because of the disrespect voters have for the ACC in football. Of course, he wouldn’t WIN the Heisman unless he played for an unbeaten team. But the only explanation I can think of why he would not finish higher in the voting is because he got less respect for playing in the ACC, and maybe further, for playing for NC State.

    And you’re right. He deserved better. I’ve thought that many times before. If only we had the coaching staff that we have now back when we had Rivers.

  5. PackerInRussia 07/31/2009 at 3:19 PM #

    I was a sophomore when PR was a freshman, so I was fortunate to have 3 overlapping years. I had a public speaking class with him during his first year (in the fall). All of his speeches were about football. For one of the speeches, he explained in great detail about how to tackle. It kind of struck me as odd, in a good way, that a QB would do a speech about tackling. I know every QB should know how to tackle just in case, but to me it was a testament to his preparation. I would see him around campus from time to time and he would always say “Hey” when we passed. He was far from a stuck-up jock.
    One of the most exciting games I saw in person (I did not see the OSU game in person) was the game against UVA at CF when it was a back and forth shoot-out b/t Rivers and Schaub (sp?) with seemingly no defense in the game. I remember a great atmosphere and a really fun game.
    It seems like I remember someone saying (maybe Mazzone) that Philip called all the plays in the first series against Kansas in the bowl game.
    Great article. Great memories. And tough memories (FSU, OSU).

    “I don’t know who made the call for the second (some say it was Philip himself but I’ve never gotten a first hand story) but that cost us the game.”

    From what I recall, in the postgame it almost sounded like Rivers took credit for running it in. They spread out the field and then maybe he had the option of what to do. I don’t remember exactly, but the way talked about it made it sound like he decided to run it in.

  6. bradleyb123 07/31/2009 at 3:20 PM #

    ^^^ “The 2 QB sneaks is still completely shocks me. I wouldn’t even call 2 QB sneaks in NCAA 2010 and the QB sneak works there better than real life. I don’t know who made the call for the second (some say it was Philip himself but I’ve never gotten a first hand story) but that cost us the game.”

    Soon after that game, I read that one of the coaches had seen something in the FIRST quarterback sneak. Had Rivers cut right instead of left (or whatever), he would have scored. So they decided to try it again. (I’m not saying that was a valid excuse, that’s just what I read about it at the time…) I don’t think PR called that second sneak. I think the coaches were rolling the dice and hoping for a repeat of whatever it was they saw during the first sneak.

    What made me so mad about it was that I didn’t think we played to our strength to give ourselves the best chance to win the game. I felt like our coaches beat us, not OSU, for making those boneheaded QB sneak calls.

  7. timberwolf 07/31/2009 at 3:29 PM #

    About that marketing (or lack thereof)… a good customer of mine in San Diego who is season tx holder for Bolts never heard of Rivers pre-draft. He wanted the guy who didn’t want his city. Then came the yelping. But they love him now! Marty was a good thing for him.

  8. bradleyb123 07/31/2009 at 3:57 PM #

    FWIW, I asked earlier if anyone had heard anything about Crisp wavering on his commitment to the Pack.

    Someone posted this link (on another blog), that makes be breathe a little easier about Crisp:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/football/columns/story?columnist=shurburtt_jc&id=4363475

    Excerpt:

    “Crisp to transfer

    NC State commit offensive lineman Robert Crisp, an ESPNU 150 Watch List selection, and defensive back commit Peter Singer are leaving Chapel Hill High for nearby Cedar Hill High, according to their father, Peter Singer Sr.

    Singer Sr. had no comment beyond that, other than to say nothing has changed with the pair’s verbal commitment to the Wolfpack. “

  9. packalum44 07/31/2009 at 4:13 PM #

    Phillip was largely a one man team during his 4 years, with a few NFL receivers to boot. Our O-line and defense was garbage. And there was still a chance every game. This is what gives me so much hope this season, as we have Wilson. There’s a chance, EVERY game.

  10. bradleyb123 07/31/2009 at 4:54 PM #

    packalum44, and now we actually have a coach that knows how to assemble an O-line!

  11. packalum44 07/31/2009 at 5:26 PM #

    ^ I know…it makes me tingle with excitment. As TOB said himself, it doesn’t take much to raise the expectations of Wolfpack Nation! To be fair, it doesn’t take much to cursh our spirits either 🙂 Have a great weekend everyone!

  12. CStanley 07/31/2009 at 10:13 PM #

    I shed a tear when Philip ran on the field for his last game at State against Maryland.

    There, I said it.

  13. CStanley 07/31/2009 at 10:16 PM #

    In all seriousness, if you want proof that Philip deserved better, just go back and watch the Maryland game from his senior night. Kid gets his jersey retired and we promptly lose a game in gut wrenching fashion because of (another) one of TA’s fuck ups to an absolute bunch of thuggish, jackleg heathens led by a fatass jerk.

    I still have not gotten over that night.

  14. Wufpacker 08/01/2009 at 3:29 AM #

    ^ “I still have not gotten over that night.” You don’t say? I surely couldn’t tell by the “…promptly lose a game in gut wrenching fashion because of (another) one of TA’s fuck ups to an absolute bunch of thuggish, jackleg heathens led by a fatass jerk” comment. LOL. Don’t feel badly, though…I don’t think many of us have gotten over that night.

    In all seriousness, though, PR was the epitome of “class act”. And to say he deserved better in his college career is perhaps the understatement of the decade. His career was marked with such amazing highs (almost always due to his playmaking ability) and lows (almost never due to mistakes of his doing).

    Can you imagine what the ’03 season (or even ’04 for that matter) could have been like if we had a defense like the one we had in ’05, or even an above average defense, for that matter? Mr. Rivers might very well have gotten his Heisman ceremony invite, possibly even a win, and the team almost assuredly would have made a BCS bowl one or both years. Hell, its a longshot but we might even now be one of the few schools with Nat’l Titles in both revenue sports.

    Make no mistake…PR was special. I believe someone earlier used the word “transcendent”, and I think that is accurate. As NCSU fans, we’ll be lucky if we EVER again see a QB talent like Rivers in the red & white in our lifetimes, and with all due respect, that includes Russell Wilson.

  15. tj foose 08/01/2009 at 5:10 AM #

    Kirk Herbstreet was a big fan of Philip’s… I remember him saying – I think at half time of the FSU game – that Philip was hands down, the best player in college football and deserved to win the Heisman.

    Herbstreet stated that if Philip could get just a little help from his team, he would win it. I don’t remember the specifics, but he went on to say that even with 3 loses for the Pack, Philip would still win the Heisman.

    Other frustrations the PR did not deserve: Noel Mazzone’s play calling. How about those 2 QB draws against Ohio State? That still baffles the mind. Our best asset is PR’s arm and mind, and on two straight plays, with the game on the line, our own coaches take both out of the game.

    And just the week before, at Wake Forest, I lost count of how many times Philip would throw his arms up in frustration when he received the play from the sidelines. I remember watching us send out 3, 4, and 5 receivers into patterns, and none being deeper than 15 yards. Wake shut us down, it was easy with our plays… I remember one specific time when Philip just waved his arm at the sideline as if to say “enough, I’m not listening to you”… I’m guessing he called his own play because we finally sent a receiver deep, and Philip of course hit him perfectly.

    Later, after Wake was up pretty big, Noel was finally forced to open it up. Philip nearly led us back again. I often wondered what the hell Noel Mazzone was thinking…. I guess after his tenur here I gained a better understanding of how all those Denver Bronco fans must have felt with John Elway at QB but Dan Reeves calling the plays.

    LRM Note: I still think we went into that Wake game focused instead on Ohio State the following week, and I blame that on the coaches. They were completely listless in that first half, and by then the damage was done. Two of Philip’s interceptions were that day — I think he forced one in a rare moment of frustration (like you said), but the other was one of those only-happen-to-us deflections off a D-lineman’s hand that went straight up instead of straight down. Regardless, I truly believed after that game that we would light up Ohio State the following weekend, and if not for those early gaffes, we very likely would have controlled that game (one of our best defensive performances of the season)

  16. tj foose 08/01/2009 at 5:37 AM #

    Clarifying… with our defense, or lack there of, we were often behind or struggling to to keep pace, so the coaches were FORCED to let Philip open it up and air it out.

    My comment regarding Elway and Dan Reeves was directed to our play calling in critical situations, or when the game was on the line. Seemed our coaches always tighten up and tried “not to lose”, ala all the aforementioned games in the previous postings, and my Wake Forest example. We were supposed to beat Wake, so the coaches went conservative until we were too far behind for even Philip to bring us back.

  17. CStanley 08/01/2009 at 12:09 PM #

    2003 was when our coaching problems finally started revealing their ugly selves.

  18. rtpack24 08/02/2009 at 10:21 AM #

    When TA went to ATL the fumbling continued. He fumbled twice in the morning and was warned that they do not put the ball on the ground in the NFL. So that afternoon TA fumbles again and was cut on the spot.

  19. RTPMedic 08/05/2009 at 2:32 PM #

    Four things I remember about the Arkansas State game…being there with my Dad, this new kid Rivers’ arm, Robinson leaping above everyone else to haul down those passes…and the rain. Boy, what a GREAT college football experience that was!

  20. WolfmanDave 08/07/2009 at 10:47 AM #

    I remember during the summer before Philip’s senior year, Caulton Tudor wrote a column saying he knew it would never happen, but Philip should redshirt his senior year because the defense was going to be bad, but was only a year away from being really good. Obviously he wasn’t going to redshirt. He had a wife and a kid at that point, and was ready to get paid. I don’t agree with a lot of what Tudor writes, but that column was spot on.

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