Women’s Basketball Coaching News (Update w/ Caulton Tudor’s thoughts)

Thanks to a link on another thread, WRAL is reporting that Stephanie Glance will not be promoted to head women’s basketball coach at NC State. I don’t really follow women’s basketball, but didn’t want the BB Byte thread to be taken over by this emotional topic.

UPDATE: Ronnie Brown, Kay’s brother, talked to WRAL and also provided a copy of the letter that Coach Yow sent Lee Fowler and Chancellor Oblinger.

Caulton Tudor weighs in on Saturday morning.

But there’s a wise old adage that the hands of the dead should not dictate the hands of the living. On this issue, there’s more to be taken into account than the last wish of the legendary Yow. Her request should be a primary consideration, of course. But even more than honoring Yow’s request, Fowler and his superiors owe it to her memory to hire the very best candidate the school can afford.

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132 Responses to Women’s Basketball Coaching News (Update w/ Caulton Tudor’s thoughts)

  1. hball57 04/14/2009 at 4:18 PM #

    “Duke needed only 15 days to replace Gail Goestenkors with Joanne P. McCallie, and they didn’t know Goestenkors was going to leave.

    Pokey Chatman at LSU resigned midseason after she had an inappropriate relationship with with a player, and they were able to hire Van Chancellor (one of the greatest women’s basketball coaches of all time) by April 11th. ”

    Duke coaching search happened after the season was over. Duke being a private institution is not required to post the job for 30 days. LSU hired someone who was out of coaching, so there were no restrictions about contact. But don’t let the facts get in the way of another piss on Lee Fowler session.

    Alpha, while I may disagree some on the Lee Fowler stance, that is not the gist of my argument. There are some posts that are specifically set up to rant on Lee Fowler. That’s great, I have no problem with that. What bothers me is that there are posts that are about something totally different and they are hijacked by people posting the same old thing about Fowler. And they will twist anything they can to make the same old point that they make in every post. Why can’t we have a post to talk about the basketball team, or our new WBB coach without people saying the same old thing? And why can’t some people at least be original? WE may not always agree, but we should all agree about our love for NC State. But some people only care about WBB if they can use it to bash Lee Fowler. If you don’t care about WBB any other time then leave it alone!

  2. xphoenix87 04/14/2009 at 5:44 PM #

    “Can we cut out the homophobic comments on here? My reference to the relationship between Yow and Glance (which from all accounts was longstanding and committed) was only an “insulting insinuation” if you still live in the fantasy world where loving, monogamous same sex relationships don’t exist. People like you making comments like that are the reason people like Kay Yow have to lead complicated and apparently contradictory lives where their faith community gives them hateful and condemnatory messages about who they are…Kay never chose to make an issue of it. That’s her prerogative, but it doesn’t somehow call the facts of the underlying situation into doubt. Not every GLBT person is a stark raving activist. For many of us, it’s just a small part of who we are…”

    You’re absolutely missing the point. What I argued was that it’s insulting to accuse Coach Yow of “nepotism” and “inappropriate” relations with her staff when there is not a shred of credible evidence to imply that, and there’s a whole hos of reasons not to believe it. Give me one solid, concrete reason to believe that Glance was anything more than a long-time assistant and close friend. If anything it should be insulting to YOU that any time you have a single women’s basketball coach (or really, anyone single who is associated with women’s basketball), she’s usually assumed to be lesbian, and not in a flattering manner (don’t believe me? Go read basically any sports blog article on women’s basketball). This has nothing to do with my views on sexuality, which is why, as I said above, I’m not making this into a civil rights or religious argument. You accused a well-respected and beloved coach of nepotism and innapropriate relations with her staff without a shred of proof. That’s the issue.

  3. Classof89 04/15/2009 at 8:15 AM #

    Why was the relationship “inappropriate”? Heck, we’re about to hire a replacement who is MARRIED to her assistant coach. If you find it inappropriate, you should be condemning Harper also…

    And I’m not making any assumptions. I’ve got it from a pretty good first-hand source.

  4. BillyTheKid 04/15/2009 at 8:49 AM #

    Classof89, it’s because Harper is married to a MAN! That is the reason it’s not “inappropriate”. Graywolf has already said that liking men was a big plus for Harper along with a few other comments that SFN found okay to leave up. I made a comment about Graywolf not being very smart and they took that one down:> Oh Well.

  5. xphoenix87 04/15/2009 at 9:53 AM #

    You really should work on that whole reading business, you don’t seem to be very good at it.

    I was not the one who called the relationship inappropriate. Girlfriend in a Coma did.

    “First, wasn’t it Nora Lynn who was “involved” with Yow? Was Glance also? Either of those relationships is highly innapropriate for lots of reasons btw.”

    Hence, why I put “inappropriate” in quotation marks, indicating that I was quoting someone else.

    Also, there is a difference between having an open, public relationship with a staff member and a secret one, regardless of sexual orientation. An open relationship that is publicly known is much less likely to produce biased decisions and favoritism than a secret one is. That has nothing to do with sexual orientation and everything to do with public vs. secret.

    Fine, maybe you’ve got some secret source that makes you confident that this is true, whatever, that’s your prerogative. For me, I’m highly skeptical of some vague statement from “a woman who used to coach at NC State, and, indeed, coached Yow herself at Elon”, especially since Yow went to ECU and never played collegiate sports at Elon, she was coach and AD there. Unless I see some kind of actual proof, I’m going to refrain from accusing my beloved coach of nepotism.

  6. BillyTheKid 04/15/2009 at 11:09 AM #

    That is the thing, if we lived in a better world people would not have to live a secret life and you wouldn’t have to worry about secret nepotism or anything like that. I have no idea who Yow may or may not have been in a relationship with but, it would be very understandable if she was in a relationship with another woman that she would have had to have kept it a secret, not only at NC State but also at that “wonderful” church you talk about her going to. The hate is what causes people to live in secret to start with. The hate is what we all need to work together to stop. Thank you for your time and may God Bless us all.

  7. Classof89 04/15/2009 at 2:06 PM #

    I never stated you were the particular poster calling the relationship inappropriate. Apologies if you took it as a personal accusation. And though I confused ECU (Yow’s alma mater) with Elon (her break in coaching), I stand by my source.

    I think we can let this issue rest for now. But I sure hope one of Fowler’s motives in rejecting Glance was not her sexuality.

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