Twenty Turnovers in Win Over Hapless Central

I listened to parts of each half, and it wasn’t very impressive. I heard at least two 10-second calls against State PGs. And the Eagles were actually up 10-2 at the first media timeout. Thankfully, State pulled away in the last ten minutes to avoid an embarrassing score in this morning’s paper.

But against a 2-23 opponent, NC State committed a whopping 20 turnovers, including 10 by Wolfpack point guards. Here’s your full boxscore. Notice that nobody is in double figures except the three seniors who went 22 of 31 from the floor and scored 57 points.

Also worth noting was that Tracy Smith played only five minutes; and Farnold Degand played only three minutes while Javi Gonzalez and Julius Mays received 15 and 19 minutes, respectfully.

It appears that Johnny Thomas (9 points in 17 minutes) continued to flash athleticism and solid hustle. The N&O’s article about the game is linked here.

Then N.C. State’s Johnny Thomas took his game above the rim, soaring for a showtime dunk that fans will get a chance to see on highlight tape re-runs if they missed it Tuesday night.

Shortly after the energetic reserve delivered his electric “Johnny Thomas Special,” the Pack also took off and secured a 87-59 victory over the resolute Eagles, who performed better than a 2-23 opponent.

The Wolfpack is now 12-8 on the season.

About BJD95

1995 NC State graduate, sufferer of Les and MOC during my entire student tenure. An equal-opportunity objective critic and analyst of Wolfpack sports.

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42 Responses to Twenty Turnovers in Win Over Hapless Central

  1. wolfonthehill 02/04/2009 at 1:27 PM #

    I love being a CBI bubble team…

  2. choppack1 02/04/2009 at 1:29 PM #

    Of signing day interest – it looks like we’ve got 25 of 27 LOIs in…Yahoo has a nice free page – linked to scout.

    Interesting, we’re signing a TON of 3 star kids. We’ve only got 1 *4 star – but I think our average is something like 2.87.

  3. TomPack 02/04/2009 at 1:50 PM #

    I am as frustrated as everyone with how the BBall season is progressing but I also expected another rough one. It’s easy to rail and want the coach’s head but in coming here he didn’t have a great foundation left for him to work with. Maybe is should be that he gets a few years with his players at State and if the team is still bad then another coach might be the answer. He has some really good recruits coming and deserves the chance to work with them…besides if Sid gets fired does anyone trust Jed not to muff it again and turn the school into a national joke again.

  4. Pack Leader 02/04/2009 at 2:00 PM #

    ChopPack A few of us had a dissusion last night on another page and i think we decided that Rivals. has Jarvis bird a 4 Star and Scout has Denzelle Good and Asa Watson 4 stars respectivly as well so I believe we are getting a good class that has and underrated class with alot of players on the rise. and Sam Jones is a 4 star that is just able to join the pack and is already inrolled. TOB is getting the ball rolling now

  5. crackdog 02/04/2009 at 2:19 PM #

    Following the game last night I went up to the Arena club to hear Towe do the Q&A session. Towe said that Degand had some soreness in his knee, which is why he came out early and stayed out.

    CJ didn’t log minutes because the coaches are trying to get the rotation back to 8 or 9 guys, and CJ isn’t the 8th or 9th best in practice right now. Towe said CJ knows the deal, that there are only 200 minutes per game, and he has to earn them.

    No word on Tracy’s minutes, but based on hearing Sid on the sideline during the game, Sid was ticked at him for his defense, as well as being out of position several times on offense.

    No word on the slight limp that Costner developed in the second half, but it didn’t hurt his game against these guys.

    IMO, two of the TOs were on Lowe- he took so long barking the play in to Javi, that defenders swarmed him. Once, it caused a 5 second count, and once it caused a travel when Javi tried to pivot for a pass.

  6. anti-smurf 02/04/2009 at 2:44 PM #

    Thanks Crackdog –

    You would think that with even the walk-ons getting minutes that CJ would get in. Sounds like coach-speak to me. There’s something else going on. There has to be. No way he makes it from starter to last guy in line in 3 games.

  7. Classof89 02/04/2009 at 4:17 PM #

    I just don’t see this team winning an ACC road game, but I suppose stranger things have happened ( I remember several times over the last 10-15 years losing to ACC foes that were supposed to be historically bad that year–Virginia early in the Herb era (one sportswriter in a preview wrote that that team in Gillen’s first year could be the least talented in ACC history), a really bad Wake Forest team one year, and Miami last year, so I suppose that now the shoe is on the other foot, and some teams will choke on the pressure of not wanting to lose at home to one of the three awful teams in the ACC…

  8. GAWolf 02/04/2009 at 5:26 PM #

    At least the Pack put two (of only 16) on Ice Ice Babies’ list of Memorable White Guys of the NBA from the 90’s:

    http://iceicebabies.com/2009/02/the-nbas-memorable-white-guys/

  9. crackdog 02/04/2009 at 5:49 PM #

    Anti-smurf, the other thing that has happened over the last few weeks is Ferguson’s continued recovery from injury. He played most of the minutes that CJ would have seen.

  10. wufpup76 02/04/2009 at 8:56 PM #

    BC picks up a road win at Virginia …

    Miami up big against Wake … Wake may be falling back to the pack a bit (if that score holds, that is)

  11. wufpup76 02/04/2009 at 9:22 PM #

    Miami 79 – Wake 52

    Wake was down 3 at the half … They got smoked in the second half … Not sure rushing the floor was necessary, but the Canes players jumped right in with them as if they had won the national title 🙂 Nice to feel good, I suppose

    Duke getting a ton of cheap fouls against Clemson in the first half … What else is new?

  12. JeremyH 02/04/2009 at 10:25 PM #

    All the opinions are fine, that’s why there is a comment section, but I think it would be good to have a breakdown of all major statistics, and compare with last year, at season’s end. What a great way to measure performance, with statistical data. That’s why I like this site, it’s good on providing hard data.

  13. wufpup76 02/04/2009 at 10:26 PM #

    Clemson really putting it to Duke …

    Not surprised by Miami and/or Clemson winning tonight, but they have dominated Wake and Duke, respecitvely, tonight … Still a ways to go in the Clemson-Duke game, but these scores are something

  14. JeremyH 02/04/2009 at 10:45 PM #

    Jay Bilas : “tell you what, there’s not going to be a need for a basketball at the next practice. I guarantee you there’s going to be blood on the floor..”

    Jay…. why so serious?

  15. Bubba 02/04/2009 at 10:53 PM #

    Went and watched John Wall tonight. He would make us a contender next year for any Title out there.

    He is incredible now

  16. ctfan 02/05/2009 at 11:05 AM #

    I have a question about confidence… It seems to me like every Wolfpack player plays with a nervous tension in just about every game. I think the players have to carry a fear of being benched for making mistakes. While I don’t think you stick with someone who is making mistakes that are hurting the team for long, I do feel like you give them a chance to make up for it. My perception is that if a wolfpack player makes a couple of mistakes, Lowe “punishes” them by sitting them for a long time. I have seen our best players sit for halves and even longer for mistakes. It happened with Grant and Hickson last year, and just about everyone on this years squad. Granted, I don’t get to hear what goes on behind the scenes, so I can’t comment about a players attitude towards the coach or possibly smarting off or making excuses for their mistakes, but I just don’t get it. I do feel like someone should be benched if they are not listening or executing the game plan, hustling, or have a bad attitude, but not for making a mistake. I do think that Lowe has been great about giving everyone a chance and rewarding players who come in a have a positive impact in the game. This has to be a big boost to them. If you haven’t noticed this pattern, just watch for it the next few games. Someone will makes some stupid mistake and they’ll hit the pine, never to be seen again, until their replacement does the same thing. That seems like an unhealthy cycle. I believe in giving people chances to make up for mistakes. I believe it produces a work ethic and builds pride and self confidence. I think confidence is a bigger problem than the X’s and O’s. Am I missing it here or does anyone else see this too?

    I am not sure about you, but my confidence would be like a roller coaster with this team, highs and lows.

  17. redfred2 02/05/2009 at 12:30 PM #

    Whoops, wrong thread.

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