Brian Clifton Update

Brian Clifton swears he’ll never be John Wall’s agent or profit from his expected stardom.You can believe him if you want.

But if I told you the No. 1 high school prospect in America (Wall) was being coached on the summer circuit and advised in the recruiting process by a man (Clifton) who was a licensed sports agent as recently as four months ago, what would you think? Would you believe it’s all pure? Or would you be cynical, given how we live in a world where agents and the runners who work for them just tarnished the college career of O.J. Mayo and always seem to be only a whistle-blower away from doing the same to the majority of elite basketball prospects produced in any given year?

Furthermore, sources told CBSSports.com that Brian Clifton has helped Bill Duffy Associates sign players in the past. Yes, that’s the same Bill Duffy Associates in the middle of the Mayo scandal. Small world, huh? But Clifton categorically denied the assertion and insisted he has never worked for or been a “runner” for BDA, though he did acknowledge assisting former N.C. State player Cameron Bennerman throughout the agent-selecting process.

Bennerman signed with BDA.

Clifton said he did not receive a penny.

And, like I said earlier, you can believe him if you want.

But me?

Well, I’ve always been cynical.

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40 Responses to Brian Clifton Update

  1. pakfanistan 08/11/2008 at 8:47 AM #

    JimV, this article is about BRIAN Clifton, not his brother, Wall’s AAU coach, DWON Clifton. Both have been involved in his recruitment.

  2. Noah 08/11/2008 at 9:03 AM #

    For those oldtimers, Dwon was the guy that one of the former posters on the old ACCBoards knew and couldn’t stop raving about. He turned out to be something less than the Michael Jordan-esque figure that was described here.

  3. JimValvano 08/11/2008 at 10:29 AM #

    Damn…so there’s two of the f*ckers.

    Okay, thanks pakfanistan for bringing everything full circle for me. What I said still has the same relevance. Don’t you guys think that if Wall ends up at Baylor things don’t appear to be on the level, but if he goes to another program…there is much less suspicion?

  4. wufpup76 08/11/2008 at 10:35 AM #

    Put me in the Noah camp w/ regards to Wall …

    This seems sort of Faustian to me – is any perceived payoff worth it? We would get one year, two years out of him – max? Would we have a team that may be able to win a championship of any kind (and if we did, would it be tainted)?

    What happens after he’s gone?

    I’d prefer to err on the side of caution / long-term vision … short-term, he may be a boon, but there could be long-term problems that arise from it … and there’s always no guarantee of short-term success

    There’s at least a huge yellow ‘caution’ flag around the John Wall situation for me …

  5. happypackdad 08/11/2008 at 2:25 PM #

    This will be a 5-6 man great class with or without Wall

  6. redfred2 08/11/2008 at 5:47 PM #

    “…would it be tainted)?”

    Let’s say Wall does come to NC State, or even if he decides on Pembroke University instead, unless there is something out there that no one is talking about, then THE KID IS NOT GUILTY OF ANYTHING TO DATE.

    Are you telling me that aren’t other players, at other programs all across the nation, that don’t have people/friends/coaches/even some parents, who want nothing more than to gain from their player’s/kid’s successes?

    This kid has a relationship with someone who is heavily involved in the game of BB, is that a crime? Also, this guy may actually be worthy to be on staff at Baylor, we don’t really know one way or the other about his abilities.

    So why are people, (NC State people especially) so fearful and quick to judge this situation?

  7. wufpup76 08/11/2008 at 9:24 PM #

    “Are you telling me that aren’t other players, at other programs all across the nation, that don’t have people/friends/coaches/even some parents, who want nothing more than to gain from their player’s/kid’s successes?”

    ^Of course not … there are probably plenty of, um, less than ethical things happening at many programs that we probaly never hear about … But, this is NC State – and it’s been over a decade now, but the image of an unsavory program is still etched in many people’s minds (fair or not) … I’ve always felt that we are watched much closer than most of our acc brethern but that maybe just State fan paranoia

    Wall may very well be on the up-and-up for everything, but unfortunately perception is reality for both him and NC State … If everything is indeed copasetic – I would welcome him regardless of how his signing would be perceived

    I don’t want to sacrifice competitiveness for the sake of appearing clean, but at the same time I don’t want to sacrifice a clean image (that was built on a ton of losses) just for a one year wonder who already has a lot of question marks around him … In my estimation, I think we could get to where we want to go w/out taking on the question marks

    We can agree to disagree 😉

  8. DuPack 08/11/2008 at 9:46 PM #

    Redfred2–you are really on to something in your comments about AAU athletics. I have a daughter that plays AAU and high school softball and it appears to me that AAU athletics is completely unregulated. And from talking and listening to the girls talk amongst themselves, AAU is more important than school in advancing your playing career.

  9. Mike 08/12/2008 at 11:42 AM #

    JimValvano, in response to wanting Ryan Kelly – he will end up at Duke and be another flame out big man in K’s regime. Ryan Kelly=Shavlik Randolph. Compare them, they could be twins.

  10. redfred2 08/12/2008 at 5:42 PM #

    “…AAU is more important than school in advancing your playing career.”

    DuPack, AAU is a different atmosphere, I don’t like it, but of course I don’t own any bling bling either.

  11. redfred2 08/12/2008 at 6:56 PM #

    Seriously though, I see ‘kind of’ the same thing with my daughters involving cheerleading. There is traditional cheerleading, which involves cheerleading in front of fairly small hometown crowds for their school, then there is the great and wonderful world of “COMPETITION CHEERING”. It’s a different world, all hyped up, loud as hell, and it’s built to make each of these girls feel like they’re already part of something which is much more important than any cheerleading obligations that they might have at their silly little schools. It’s also a huge MONEY maker.

    That might be a lame comparison and I don’t know if I expressed that well enough for anyone to pick up on what I’m trying to say, but more than HS basketball ever has, traveling here and there with an AAU BB squad puts these YOUNG KIDS in positions where they begin to believe that they are bigger than life and do not need the rules that are attached to school, or school itself, in order to make it in the world. It’s not like going directly to the NBA, or skipping high school just YET, but it’s like the next step, and almost the equivalent of having the ability to skip through high school and still get noticed for just having the ability to play BB.

    The NCAA, as well as the NBA, should have realized long ago that this scenario is not going to be good either of their futures.

  12. redfred2 08/12/2008 at 7:07 PM #

    ^ …is not going to be good ‘for’ either of their futures.

  13. DuPack 08/12/2008 at 8:21 PM #

    redfred2–my daughter started off in fastpitch softball at age 10 and the program was pretty small potatoes. However, now that she is has aged into high school fundraising has morphed into sponsorship. Teams with the most money lure away the best players as you age up. The better sponsored teams are capable of supplying everything from equipment, uniforms, travel expenses, fees, and meals. The NCAA used to be real sensitive about these kind of perks for playing sports. But what I have been told is they have no jurisdiction in AAU. The NCAA restricts collegiate coach access to high school players. I have been told there are no such restrictions at AAU tournaments. What I am trying to say is that AAU sports allows access to student athletes that the NCAA would not allow when it comes to their high school participation. So, I ask could the stench surrounding an OJ Mayo be coming from his AAU squad?

  14. redfred2 08/13/2008 at 11:40 AM #

    ^I think what we both agree on is that there is a double standard which handicaps the schools/academic systems, who are trapped in the middle and cannot offer all of the excitement or perks that traveling around with AAU squad provides. In my opinion the schools shouldn’t be able to anyway, but it does leave HS athletics (BB mainly) looking dull and boring to these young kids in comparison, whereas AAU comes off looking like the little sister of the NBA.

    Like I said before, they really need to get a handle on this thing or they are going to end up with an NBA that’s even much less appealing than it is right now. Currently, the poor old NCAA, which is held to certain standards, is totally powerless to do anything about it and is getting squeezed further and further out of the picture.

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