Writing on the wall for JJ; Look to Big Ced for example (May 7th Update)

May 1, 2008
The writing may be the wall for JJ Hickson. As NC State fans people who genuinely want to see JJ Hickson maximize his earnings and succeed for years to come; we can only hope that the young man is mature enough to ‘read the wall’ objectively ans execute the kind of decision-making-skills needed to insure a bright future for the young man.

Before the recent onslaught of announcements by dozens of highly rated underclassment, Hickson was projected by many to be a second round draft choice in this summer’s NBA Draft. The impact of all of these underclassment has certainly not helped Hickson’s cause.

A recent spate of articles from various pundits all echo an indentical sentiment – JJ Hickson definitely needs to come back to school for at least one more year. And these articles aren’t just ‘throw away’ mentions; Hickson’s decision to potentially leave early is being specifically identified as one of the biggest mistakes of all of the early decisions.

Just this week ESPN’s Chad Ford said:

I love Hickson’s game, but the draft is so crowded. He’d be better off going back to school, dominating for a year and then testing the waters as a sophomore.

Of course, any and all of this ‘guidance’ may be irrelevant if JJ is committed to entering the NBA Draft come hell or high water…and, that seems to be the case. The comments under JJ’s name on CBS Sportsline’s tracking of the early entrants says:

Nobody was in more of a hurry to get to the NBA than this guy.

IMHO, the real crux of the issue for Hickson should have much more to do with his potential longetivity in the NBA – and therefore long term earning power – than his ability to make some money as early as possible.

Wolfpackers probably recognize this ‘balance’ more than most fan bases based on recent developments in career of Cedric Simmons. After being ‘projected’ to be drafted closer to #10, Simmons was selected HIGHER than Hickson is projected at a solid #15 just two years ago. Simmons was projected to be such a solid choice that the Hornets’ draft received rave reviews. (See how these ‘projections’ work out?)

Simmons is now on his third NBA roster in just two years. As #15 draft selection in 2006 he by-passed significant developmental, practice and playing experiences over the last two years in exchange for starting in four games and appearing in only 57 games. To this point in his career Simmons has played in less than 600 minutes of NBA games. By contrast, JJ Hickson played almost 900 minutes in his first collegiate season.

It should be noted that Simmons has dealt with some injuries since joining the league. But that is part of the risk of jumping to the league before your skills are ready just as the risk of getting injured in college is always cited.

The injuries caused Big Ced to spend time in the NBA’s Developmental League in Iowa to help him rehabilitate and get into shape (since NBA teams don’t practice enough for young players to get into shape or develop) A ‘pro’ basketball stint in Iowa surely was not on the radar for any potential lottery pick coming out of college. That had to suck. But, when you don’t get significant playing time in the NBA because you are young and still developing, how else do you get the chance to shake off the rust?

Unfortunately, these developments seem to indicate that Simmons is already evolving into the part of “NBA Journeyman”. Guess what? NBA Journeymen don’t make tens of millions of dollars. They also don’t make it in the league long enough to make that kind of money because there are always dozens of ‘youngsters’ coming out early who are a little younger and may have just enough ‘potential’.

As a player in the NBA you have one of two different abilities that are valuable to a franchise: (1) you contribute, or (2) you have potential. If you ‘fall in the bucket of ‘having potential’ then you better get yourself into the contributing category as fast as you can who those youngsters quickly take your spot on the end of the bench.

In the NBA, youngsters who are bench players early in their career – as big men often are – rarely develop their game as they would in college because of the limited practice schedule. Due to the 82-game schedule, NBA squads travel and play games much more than they practice. Therefore, the opportunity for young players with ‘potential’ to develop in truly competitive environments is limited. Ultimately, these kids make a few million bucks in their first three years and then their ability to make tens of millions of dollars for the money for the next decade is significantly impaired.

Of course, there is always the risk of ‘injury’ even if the frequency of career ending injuries in basketball is exceptionally low. This is why insurance policies exist. Insurance proceeds certainly won’t make-up the difference in tens of millions of dollars through a career that lasts more than a decade; but, we aren’t talking about someone who is currently projected or guaranteed that kind of career to begin with. Look at Big Ced to see how early-career injuries in the NBA can create equal risk on your future.

The best route to achieving a long-term career and the exceptional pay-day that comes with it just may require the ‘risk’ of another developmental year in college for JJ Hickson. Whatever his ultimate decision, we would all want nothing more than to see an unlimited amount of success for the young man.

Parting shot – From the NC State perspective, if JJ Hickson were to return for his sophomore season, I truly believe that the Wolfpack could be just as big of a surprise in 2008-2009 as we were a disappointment in 2007-2008. Only time will tell…but the pieces are there for signficant improvement as long as the team can remain relatively healthy.

Updated May 7th
Hickson’s decision ranked one of the five worst in all of college basketball by rivals.com. (Isn’t “The Wolfpacker” part of Rivals.com? Just curious…how do the Wolfpack Club and Athletics Department NOT view such an article as ‘negative’ like they do SFN? All we are doing is reporting what they are saying…yet WE are ‘negative’?!)

F J.J. Hickson, N.C. State
Stats: 14.8 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 1.5 bpg

If given the choice, you never want to go into the draft with your stock slipping. That is the case with Hickson, a 6-9 freshman. He got off to an impressive start, averaging 16.5 points per game in November and December. But that dropped to 12.5 in conference play. The Wolfpack’s struggles didn’t help, either. They lost their last nine games and finished with more losses (16) than wins (15). Hickson is projected as a borderline first-round pick, but if he stays in school and makes some improvements, he will be a first-round lock next year.

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66 Responses to Writing on the wall for JJ; Look to Big Ced for example (May 7th Update)

  1. packbackr04 05/01/2008 at 2:58 PM #

    “”But that is a lot better than the “who’s tranferring” ride “”

    maybe im just pessimistic, but i would have liked to have had one or two of our “players” transfer this offseason, alas, it seems it was not to be.

  2. Noah 05/01/2008 at 3:03 PM #

    I disagree with a LOT of assumptions in the blog entry…but the general tone is right. Hickson SHOULD come back. But won’t.

    Which is why college basketball is the dumpster fire that it is…

  3. JeremyH 05/01/2008 at 4:04 PM #

    maybe he can his status in pre-draft camp? isn’t it a no-brainer though, if you are off the 2nd round radar also, well then you’re not making anywhere near what first rounders make. stay and play with better guard player.

  4. kyjelly 05/01/2008 at 9:18 PM #

    Yes Lowe does get these players…… pretty funny but they are not the good 1 and done type players they are in Sid’s mind and in JJs mind ,but the only lottery he is going to get into is the one you buy at 7/11………and an aside to all this if in fact Sid knew that JJ was all but gone after this year why on earth do we not have a big man coming in one perhaps who is really a center?
    ^Larry Brown is not on the outs at unx where did he just become coach? Who is the president of that team? And is it not unx @charlotte?

  5. Dogbreath 05/01/2008 at 9:40 PM #

    What’s this N.B.A. you speak of? Seriously, this so-called professional league could be in Siberia for all I care. Its nothing to me, hasn’t been since around 1987 or whenever the Detroit ‘Bad Boy’ Pistons came around.

    The last game J.J. Hickson suits up at NC State will be the last game I ever see him play.

  6. xphoenix87 05/02/2008 at 2:11 AM #

    Though he would almost certainly be better off waiting till next year when the draft will be weaker, JJ wouldn’t be making nearly the mistake you’re making it out to be if he were to stay in the draft this year. I would be shocked if he didn’t go in the first round. He’s got an NBA body, he’s a very good athlete, and he has really good scoring instincts in the low post. He’s the kind of guy who is really going to stand out in pre-draft workouts, and I think he’ll definitely be considered a first-round lock by the time the draft comes around.

    The situation is completely different than Ced’s because, quite frankly, Hickson is WAY more talented than Ced (who only went 15th because that was the weakest draft class of all time). JJ, right now, is a more talented offensive player than Ced ever was at State, and he’s got a much more pro-ready body.

    If he leaves, I sure wouldn’t blame him. After the fiasco that was last year, wouldn’t you go if you thought you were firmly in the first round?

  7. Wulfpack 05/02/2008 at 7:16 AM #

    After the fiasco that was last year, and considering what this year could be with the loss of Gavin, I’m not saying I’d go outright but I’d sure as hell consider it due to the fact that the chances are that we are going to be downright awful once more.

  8. Afterglow 05/02/2008 at 7:39 AM #

    I said it a few times before and I’ll say it again-JJ stays. I think that if there is an argument to be made by the experts for him staying then Lowe will be the one to convince him of that, just as Lowe was (one of the ones to play for the PACK.

    There have been mixed messages along the way in regard to him being one and done and him wanting to stay and get a degree. I suppose one could still get a degree with out staying but I don’t think anyone is really clear (except for JJ) as to which way he will go; but I have a gut feeling that he will be back. And no, I do not think he will be here for four years but it seemed that he expressed earlier that he was content with staying longer than a year-I don’t remember the exact quote but something having to do with his Grandmother wanting him to work on earning his degree.

  9. packbackr04 05/02/2008 at 8:22 AM #

    this is just further proof that college hoope needs to make it mandatory for players to either leave for the NBA right after high-school or they have to stay 3 years. period.

  10. Pack84 05/02/2008 at 9:45 AM #

    Can anyone in school now, or closely connected, confirm if JJ is still going to class and making sufficient academic progress that would even allow him to be back in school next year?

  11. Noah 05/02/2008 at 10:13 AM #

    I think Lowe has alleged that Hickson is still going to class. I’m reasonably certain he said that last week.

  12. kyjelly 05/02/2008 at 10:47 AM #

    NBA body ? He is 6’8 that is not big by NBA standards ……unless you are 6’8 and built like Wes Unseld or Barkley

  13. happypackdad 05/02/2008 at 11:10 AM #

    I see where Duke landed another recruit. No NCSU recruiting news? Brown?

  14. blackdom 05/02/2008 at 11:20 AM #

    ^ Status Quo is how it is done here …As Sid said in his last interview “He “hopes” the team is better this year”

  15. Noah 05/02/2008 at 11:49 AM #

    Lorenzo Brown’s latest statements have him already talking about going pro early.

    Top 50 player, still in high school, never scored a single bucket in college…already talking about the NBA.

    Lord have mercy.

  16. bradleyb123 05/02/2008 at 1:48 PM #

    “this is just further proof that college hoope needs to make it mandatory for players to either leave for the NBA right after high-school or they have to stay 3 years. period.”

    Problem is, college hoops can’t force anyone to do anything of the sort. The NBA (National Boring Association) has to agree to such a rule.

    It’s only fair. College teams invest a lot of time and money into recruiting, and offer one of a small handful of scholarships to a player. If he leaves after one year, the school may have missed out on a different recruit that would have stayed longer.

    If a player goes to college, he should be required to wait three years minimum before being allowed to play for the NBA. I think the NBA is waking up and realizing taking such young ‘potential’ players is resulting in them putting out a lesser product.

  17. redfred2 05/02/2008 at 4:07 PM #

    I tried to state it myself, but THANKS Statefans, for nicely laying out the valid reasons as to why some kids should never grasp at the very first offer from the NBA. Also, you added a great explantion as to why it is much wiser for many, if not a majority, of them to come back and develop in a league where development is the name of the game. The tip top of the ladder in the NBA is not the place to find out that you don’t have a leg to stand on.

    Also, it’s really odd to see some names of the same people who always jump up and SCREAM, “HE MAY GET HURT…HE’D BE STUPID NOT TO GO…and blah, blah, blah, the same wise ones who said Cedric Simmons should sign, and the same doomsday mindset who were saying that Andrew Brackman shouldn’t risk playing BB, are now saying that JJ Hickson SHOULD COME BACK FOR ANOTHER YEAR.

    What the hell is that all about???

  18. Astral Rain 05/02/2008 at 4:11 PM #

    Hickson’s making the right choice to keep his options open.

    He might be able to get into the first round, or he might not.

  19. redfred2 05/02/2008 at 4:55 PM #

    Hickson did show potential, but he has not shown, not to me anyway, anything close to an NBA skillset. He may well have what it takes and be able to prove it, but either for the MANY circumstances that were beyond his control in his first season, he was no where close to proving himself as a consistent and overpowering force on the collegiate level. That is, NOT YET, mind you!

  20. redfred2 05/02/2008 at 5:21 PM #

    “I think the NBA is waking up and realizing taking such young ‘potential’ players is resulting in them putting out a lesser product.”

    bradleyb123, It’s definitely taken them long enough, but I also believe that The NBA may finally be coming around to the rationalization that they will only be helping their own cause by supporting such a rule. Besides possibly, and I say possibly because improved overall NBA play isn’t necessarily guarantee by adding two years, but just the increased rapport between the players and their collegiate fans will be worth enough to make the NBA much more popular than the “who the hell is that guy?” and dreaded snoozer of a league that it has now become.

  21. pacman23 05/05/2008 at 1:22 PM #

    great article, SFN. Make sure that gets on every wall JJ sees between now and June 19, please!

  22. PackMan97 05/07/2008 at 8:43 AM #

    The biggest problem with the NBA taking young players is that they can’t afford to miss on a Kobe Bryant or the LeBron James. Players that are ready to make an impact regardless of their age. Talent evaluation isn’t perfect and potential will always be favored over polish (unless the kid has an abundance of both).

    It’s just the business of the NBA. You can take a ton of polished and talented players and put together a good team, but more than likely you’ll never win a championship. However, if you can find that one kid who will be a top 5 NBA player for a decade and then find him decent teammates, you have a winning formula.

  23. choppack1 05/07/2008 at 8:50 AM #

    Packman – There’s no evidence Hickson is the next Lebron or Kobe. If he’s lucky, he’ll be the next Kwame Brown.

  24. b 05/07/2008 at 9:06 AM #

    Most likely the next Al Harrington.

  25. packbackr04 05/07/2008 at 10:14 AM #

    so is he gone for sure? i guess i am like most State fans, holding on to the last glimmer of hope that he will come back, just to have my heart stomped on at the last possible moment.

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