Chip Alexander @ a Chuck Amato Presser

This video is just too amazing and nationally popular right now not to link. I can only imagine that this is waht Chip Alexander used to feel like at Chuck Amato’s press conferences.

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53 Responses to Chip Alexander @ a Chuck Amato Presser

  1. PackMan97 09/19/2007 at 10:31 AM #

    The kid should have yelled, “Help! Help! I’m being repressed” instead of “Don’t tase me, bro”.

    John Kerry’s statement on the situation can be found on his blog: http://www.johnkerry.com/blog

    It appears the kid cut in line, but Kerry allowed his questions to be asked anyways.

    A better angle where you can hear some of what the cops say to him.
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=657_1190085332

  2. tobaccordshow 09/19/2007 at 11:03 AM #

    This shit was clearly a stunt:

    “You did nothing wrong” the student told the cops when the cameras weren’t present. He even inquired if cameras would be at the jail for his booking. Cops reported that he would only begin to flail his arms and act boisterous when a camera was present. When they took him downstairs of the building where the event was taking place, he was calm and collected. When cameras came downstairs, he resumed his scene.

    This guys needs to go to jail for a while.

    And one of the videos was recorded using his own camera…

    No he didn’t plan this at all……

    SFN: I appreciate the fact that John Kerry disagreed with this view^ and condemned the reaction of the police.

    Seriously…so what if the kid planned it? So what if it was a ‘stunt’? Does that somehow alter the justification of the behavior of the police and the use of a taser in a situation that OBVIOUSLY didn’t call for it? You think the kid planned “IT”…as in, he planned to get taken down by 4 to 5 cops and then TASERED for asking jerkish questions? Whatever.

    Whether you meant for it to read this way – your comments seem to indicate that someone who is politically active and asks hard, albeit jerkish, questions that the passive media won’t ask deserves to be tasered?

    In light of this, I hope that everyone who doesn’t think this is a big deal shared similar views of the use of force in the Rodney King incident after King had led the police on a dangerous high speed chase, was so strung out on drugs that the use of stun guns did not slow him down, and as he continually refused to lie still despite repeated demands of the police and the use of physical violence. Just wanting to make sure that our readers are applying consistent standards to all situations as opposed to injecting their political agendas into their judgement.

  3. beowolf 09/19/2007 at 11:40 AM #

    I think it is highly unfair and inappropriate to bring up Chuck Amato in relationship with this, even in jest.

  4. Dr. BadgerPack 09/19/2007 at 11:45 AM #

    I thought after I left Madison I’d be away from the loons… lo and behold, I end up in Gainesville with a whole new batch of them.

  5. tobaccordshow 09/19/2007 at 11:48 AM #

    ^^ lighten up

  6. beowolf 09/19/2007 at 11:50 AM #

  7. StateFans 09/19/2007 at 12:16 PM #

    Beo,

    I wanted to get it on the site somehow…this is the only relevant tact that I could devise.

  8. foz 09/19/2007 at 12:41 PM #

    No matter the political view, or his intent to make a scene (which I believe he did intend to do) when you are physically resisting a police officer, whether you think you are right or not, you cannot act surprised when force is used to subdue you.

    The same can be said for many situations. If you walk up to someone and start verbally assaulting them, you can’t be surprised when they lay you out. Not saying it is right or wrong, but seriously, what do you expect to happen?

    SFN: I am sure that he didn’t ‘EXPECT’ the use of a taser gun when five policemen are on top of him and in complete physical control of him. It was obvious that the large majority of people who watch this didn’t ‘EXPECT’ that kind of behavior….or this wouldn’t be that big of a deal.

    Was what we watched truly ‘resisting’ arrest? What THREAT was this college kid to the cops? This kid didn’t try to fight the cops. He obviously wasn’t running away. The kid continually asked WHY are you arresting me and the cops woulds ay or do nothing. Hail Hitler! Whatever happened to Mirandizing? Whatever happened to a balance between APPROPRIATE response?

    HE WAS LYING ON THE GROUND NOT PHYSICALLY RESISTING ANYONE FOR ABOUT 30 SECONDS WHEN HE WAS TASERED. WHAT PART OF THAT IS ‘RESISTING’ TO THE POINT WHERE IT IS ACCEPTABLE TO BE TASERED?

    In no civilized world was this an appropriate response to this kid’s behavior.

    Did the FIVE policeman really not have the physical capability to subdue this one kid?

  9. redfred2 09/19/2007 at 12:53 PM #

    If you want to look it under the guise that he has the “right”, and anyone can say anything, anywhere, even if they disrupt and bother everyone else present, then I guess the kid did absolutely nothing wrong.

    Man, it’s a good thing this didn’t happen during one of Bush’s speechs, all of the media would be ablaze with talk about how Bush PERSONALLY directed his henchmen to beat up and taser a poor little college kid. But in this instance though, John Kerry is seen as just a non factor or victim I guess.

  10. StateFans 09/19/2007 at 12:59 PM #

    I am sure that he didn’t ‘EXPECT’ the use of a taser gun when five policemen are on top of him and in complete physical control of him. It was obvious that the large majority of people who watch this didn’t ‘EXPECT’ that kind of behavior….or this wouldn’t be that big of a deal.

    Have you ever seen ‘resisting’ arrest? What THREAT was this college kid to the cops?

    HE WAS LYING ON THE GROUND NOT PHYSICALLY RESISTING ANYONE FOR ABOUT 30 SECONDS WHEN HE WAS TASERED. WHAT PART OF THAT IS ‘RESISTING’ TO THE POINT WHERE IT IS ACCEPTABLE TO BE TASERED?

    Did the FIVE policeman really not have the physical capability to subdue this one kid?

  11. colapack 09/19/2007 at 1:03 PM #

    The stunts people pull to be on youtube. Am I mistaken or was John Kerry still answering the question while the dude was screaming and being restrained? Thats comical.

  12. beowolf 09/19/2007 at 1:11 PM #

    SFN, I figured that; I just don’t think that’s what this site should do. That’s all I plan to say about it (which is to say, I don’t plan on a long, drawn-out, repetitive Cedar-esque argument.)

  13. tcthdi-tgsf-twhwtnc 09/19/2007 at 1:11 PM #

    We give the police uniforms so the rest of us know who the criminals are.

  14. redfred2 09/19/2007 at 1:16 PM #

    Hey, I didn’t say a word about fairness of the treatment, just how it is perceived and reported.

  15. BoKnowsNCS71 09/19/2007 at 1:23 PM #

    I wish they had had Tasers at Kent State back in 71.

  16. foz 09/19/2007 at 1:29 PM #

    I think when he is yelling “don’t tase me” he is concious of the fact that it is a real possibility that it will happen. As for resisting, yes, I suppose 5 cops could have subdued him, but would that have caused more physical damage to the kid than the tasing him? I don’t know the answer to that, but a taser is supposedly used to protect the officers as well as the suspect/victim (whatever you want to call him) from himself – as well as subdue. And apparently different people see things differently, because I thought he was still resisting at the time of the tase. I also believe that pulling away from an officer that has his hand on you is resisting.

    That said – back to my original thought – if the taser is pulled on you, and you are still resisting, then yes, you should expect to be tased.

  17. tobaccordshow 09/19/2007 at 1:47 PM #

    “Seriously…so what if the kid planned it?”

    First of all, what you don’t see from the video is the fact that the Q&A session had ended and he didn’t get his turn. So he angrily marched towards Kerry and demanded his time. They gave it to him. After his ramblings, they cut his mic, and he got angry. The security asked me to leave and when he didn’t they were going to usher him out their way.

    The kid fought back. That is resisting an officer. If he did plan this, like I assert he did (and the fact that his friends released a website within minutes of the incident… PR at its finest… and the fact that he ASKED THE COPS IF CAMERAS WOULD BE PRESENT AT THE JAIL… and the fact that HE WAS CALM UNTIL A CAMERA SHOWED UP)… he needs to be booked for a few weeks. You don’t stage to fight the cops and then show yourself to he a helpless soul being repressed by the government.

  18. foz 09/19/2007 at 1:52 PM #

    If you want to make your point, then don’t bitch about the licks you took making said point.

  19. packpigskinfan23 09/19/2007 at 2:09 PM #

    as Bill O’Reilly said last night, and i totally agree(which I dont do with him very often)- “I have been tased before, and THIS kid is the biggest pussy ever!”

    He obviously deserves some time behind the bars, or at least one hell of a fine, and some community service. I am not saying that the cops involved dont need to be spoken to in length about their actions… but the kid should have expected this. He basically asked for it. “Don’t tase me!!! Don’t tase me!!” “Then calm down sir.” “What did I do?! Don’t tase me!!”

    idiots. all of ‘em.

  20. Sam92 09/19/2007 at 2:58 PM #

    this kid is clearly a self-aggrandizing jerk with no respect for other people; free speech has never meant that anyone has the right to disrupt someone else’s event — protests lawfully occur outside of events. no sympathy here.

    as interesting as this is, i’m a little bummed that we are having such a downer of a season that we’re not all stoked to be talking about the football team, instead of this.

  21. tobaccordshow 09/19/2007 at 3:52 PM #

    Another thing to add: When your speech prohibits another’s free speech (in this case, he would not allow Kerry to talk, or anyone else for that matter), it is not constitutionally protected.

  22. roandaddy 09/19/2007 at 5:32 PM #

    I just laugh b/c if he was protesting the war or shouting at George Bush, he would probably be lifted up as a hero. Instead he is a punk pulling a stunt.. feels like spin to me.

  23. cradletograve 09/19/2007 at 5:38 PM #

    He was tazered for interrupting an event. Yes, he cut in line, he does ramble a bit at the beginning but tazering? No excuse. They did that just to cut their job stress. No excuse. That line of police behavior slips very easily if no one responds to it. U F should be ashamed.

  24. redfred2 09/19/2007 at 5:48 PM #

    Bo, now you’re sounding an awful lot like my dad did back in those days. Come to think of it, so am I.

  25. wolfpackbball 09/19/2007 at 6:15 PM #

    Unless you’re being asked to do something that will kill you/maim you, then when the police tell you to do something….do it.

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